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Resent-From: Bruno Victal Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 22:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63403 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Maxim Cournoyer Cc: 63402@debbugs.gnu.org, 63403@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 63403-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63403.168496635611770 (code B ref 63403); Wed, 24 May 2023 22:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 63403) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2023 22:12:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45389 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q1wii-00033h-Ib for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2023 18:12:36 -0400 Received: from smtpm3.myservices.hosting ([185.26.105.234]:54752) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q1wif-00033Q-S2; Wed, 24 May 2023 18:12:34 -0400 Received: from mail1.netim.hosting (unknown [185.26.106.173]) by smtpm3.myservices.hosting (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E9D20FB1; Thu, 25 May 2023 00:12:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.netim.hosting (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CFF80097; Thu, 25 May 2023 00:12:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail1.netim.hosting Received: from mail1.netim.hosting ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1-2.netim.hosting [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id mWPjFwObHO-3; Thu, 25 May 2023 00:12:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.239] (unknown [10.192.1.83]) (Authenticated sender: lumen@makinata.eu) by mail1.netim.hosting (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B382180060; Thu, 25 May 2023 00:12:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <966ccdfe-8d66-6020-57c5-695ac4701f95@makinata.eu> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 23:12:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.1 Content-Language: en-US References: <87cz2swgpu.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87fs7ohrif.fsf@gmail.com> <87pm6pixvf.fsf@gnu.org> From: Bruno Victal In-Reply-To: <87pm6pixvf.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1684966394; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=oJaRXsiTfSUC5AsHFzgxjvKUI1jP19qLxcifPtQYt2RutNpr6eBecg0aCb7HuWnXXpxn3f RxK3pevF8g6RHdcNaNNzYR6BoLqndFApEn4oYFFMTfU1rzwCVPZViFzDR3p3azBc5W/Ky9 UGb5jWcXbFkcEnJutI6Sg+wjxBDM8j7DTuJ/3SXyE2rXiPNTSZnK/2MXNLVOd1EFpppTuk Yb83n7zYRa7tfqvbjLwB3v5az8MgUEY6O0KFsdCbW1W/xe/NlwKn4+9AF9fOkr/Q7gzHG0 c1SKDgs09P4igOQDJQdGHpomNH6rcboPnsPY6Uym6Dw+i+DYh05gGftfQPhFNg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1684966394; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=1coMs/g5+Ja0ZHVnFKocf9njpGzc6mF+eS6cxQjCFjo=; b=ls5hbUZ7pVK+69zKLcI+FINqmC1Du1sY4Ta+Ba8NBRhNfr5wUenv+sGhifZ0vlz6VeGS6n wGKdqTOC6ML+HRZIWPxBD67/yPoi6Kws9XitbUCYSyPKdITXoeFz/xbCoHgOpAFHAWw1OX 6uqdSae1jYpQLCgeEkbMWe9ZOeUNKsq9UQF6/xSD0WqlQi+BTZy/rL8F/WKthQCC58FGs+ vobsvNMKhcZbqcxDNhhZ7f1RhNNzh3kn/D/r0IYhQEOysH+pbTU9V03bkm8AlwJDI5mtIC djC9ITfvQViAZYv1yv0Tk9cC1XczjKeCNpoGHGb6dyqmHosH388aA6FvWTwxeg== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.77 X-Spam-Score: -0.77 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D1611F97 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: U9Sw1zVoVez5 Hi Ludo’, On 2023-05-24 15:53, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > I don’t doubt your script is better (first because it’s in Guile ;-)). > I’m concerned about adding non-trivial “peripheral” code that we’ll all > be responsible for going forward (the Jami services pose a similar > challenge IMO: I experienced first-hand the maintenance burden recently > when investigating system test failures.) > > So I’m a bit torn. I sympathize with the need to improve those > services, but I’m also concerned what will happen if we don’t have clear > criteria to decide what to take and what to reject. > I think having some “indigenous” guix capabilities is a good idea, if the guix services are to be something more than a (lossy) scheme translation of some daemon's configuration file syntax. IMO as long the feature in question is: * Not overly tailored to some specific setup scenario. * Generic (or can be reasonably refactored/extended as needed) * Improves the overall experience of a service. It should be acceptable to have it in Guix since it brings more value to the service subsystem. (rather than require a user to import $MYSTERY_CHANNEL_FROM_INTERNET_USER_5554$ or reinvent the ω+1 iteration of the same wheel) -- Furthermore, I consider that nonfree software must be eradicated. Cheers, Bruno.