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True,= they could use pciutils for that, but pci.ids is very simple, just a list = of hardware ids paired with manufacturer/device names. While we can see if = upstream for these programs will move to using pciutils, I could see reason= s for not wanting the dependency or wanting more current info (especially i= n Guix where we would only update pciutils on core-updates). So I would find the separate hwdata package useful for a few packages I hav= e, like mangohud (pending review) and corectrl (not submitted yet). I have = to check, but they might only want pci.ids and not anything in pciutils any= way. Also, hwdata provides more data than just pci.ids, which we don't have= packaged for Guix as far as I know. As for pciutils itself, I don't have any strong feelings on its pci.ids. Un= bundling the included (old) info and using a hwdata package as input makes = sense to me and is more flexible. On core-updates we can make that change f= or pciutils, where at some point we'd want to freeze what hwdata version it= uses. Meanwhile, hwdata can be updated regularly (looks like monthly relea= ses) for up-to-date data. I think this would keep pciutils small (zipped pci.ids), unbundled/more up = to date, and give us the hwdata as a useful package to use. WDYT?