From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id EkNkLcCxlF/UdAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 22:59:12 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id gD4EKcCxlF/uAQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 22:59:12 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A57D9403C4 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 22:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55084 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSVA-00018j-Tg for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:59:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSV4-00018M-Ny for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSV4-0002kD-Dk for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSV4-0000wM-D3 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#43920] [SHEPHERD PATCH] shepherd: Move log file to XDG_CACHE_DIR. Resent-From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 22:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43920 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: Leo Prikler , 43920@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner Received: via spool by 43920-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43920.16035803233585 (code B ref 43920); Sat, 24 Oct 2020 22:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 43920) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2020 22:58:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35420 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSUf-0000vf-Ns for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:58:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54570) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSUd-0000vS-Fq for 43920@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:58:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSUU-0002iu-Ok; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:58:27 -0400 Received: from [2001:980:1b4f:1:42d2:832d:bb59:862] (port=51794 helo=dundal.janneke.lilypond.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kWSUS-0005Bb-U6; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:58:26 -0400 From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl References: <87h7qjiore.fsf@gnu.org> X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 00:58:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h7qjiore.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:15:33 +0200") Message-ID: <87zh4b44fm.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.51 X-TUID: 03ZgNjP9Ll4J Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: Hello, > Leo Prikler skribis: > >>> The previous location wasn=E2=80=99t perfect, but the proposed one isn= =E2=80=99t >>> great >>> either: one can generally assume =E2=80=9Crm -rf ~/.cache=E2=80=9D won= =E2=80=99t lose >>> anything >>> that cannot be reconstructed, and the log is something that cannot be >>> reconstructed. >> That is actually not part of the XDG specification =E2=80=93 it merely s= tates, >> that non-essential files be put there. Whether or not one considers >> the shepherd log essential is debatable. > > Right, that=E2=80=99s my interpretation of what =E2=80=9Ccache=E2=80=9D m= eans. Yes, essential is pretty vague; a cache is something that can be re-generated. >> You could alternatively put it under $XDG_DATA_HOME. Some projects >> like Xorg seem to do that. Of course, there always remains the option >> of having yet another environment variable or command line parameter >> for the placement of the log file. > > Yup, XDG_DATA_HOME would work for me; it seems to be rather in line with > what the XDG states and what Xorg does, as you note. > > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest= .html > > WDYT, Efraim & Janneke? Data sounds a bit strong (I would consider a database to be data), and cache is too loose. Otoh, losing a log can be crucial; so I'd go for XDG_DATA_HOME. 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