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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=taiju-info.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=5gPVD0yN; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 3.86 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=taiju-info.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=5gPVD0yN; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E43B8F958 X-Spam-Score: 3.86 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: O+DlLQPEWk+s Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Sonntag, dem 25.09.2022 um 16:29 +0900 schrieb Taiju HIGASHI: >> Liliana Marie Prikler writes: >> >> > Am Sonntag, dem 25.09.2022 um 07:58 +0900 schrieb Taiju HIGASHI: >> > > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: >> > > >> > > > Anyway, it does look like your v2 is the way to go, with the >> > > > obvious caveat that using it is tricky: one needs to know about >> > > > fontconfig=E2=80=99s config file format and about sxml. >> > > > >> > > > Maybe we can go with v2 for now (it provides a useful =E2=80=9Cesc= ape >> > > > hatch=E2=80=9D) but prepare for more conventional configuration >> > > > bindings? >> > > >> > > By conventional configuration binding, do you mean adding >> > > something >> > > like home-fontconfig-configuration to provide a dedicated >> > > fontconfig >> > > configuration? >> > I think Ludo means that we should provide the most useful options >> > (like the fontconfig dirs) as dedicated record fields, while >> > leaving an "extra-config" escape hatch, that can be used with SXML >> > or a raw string for stuff that's too complicated (my personal >> > preference would still be SXML over the raw string, but YMMV). >> >> I see.=C2=A0 For example, >> >> For example, would it be as follows? >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> (service home-fontconfig-service-type >> =C2=A0 (home-fontconfig-configuration >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (dir "~/.config/fontconfig/my-fonts1.conf")) >> =C2=A0 (extra-config >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (list >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "~/.config/fontconfig/my-fonts2.conf= "))) >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > Since you can specify more than one dir, that'd be "dirs" or even > something more helpful like "font-directories". Note that those are > directories and not config files. > > You corrected the extra-config thing in your reply, but also be aware > of the extra-config as SXML option. > >> >> > > I have been reading the DTD and think it might be a bit of a >> > > challenge. >> > > https://github.com/freedesktop/fontconfig/blob/e291fda7d42e5d6437955= 5097a066d9c2c4efce3/fonts.dtd >> > > >> > > However, I did notice one thing, and that is that there is an >> > > include element.=C2=A0 I thought that if we had a configuration where >> > > the include element could be added, we could handle most of the >> > > use cases. What do you think of this idea? >> > I'd prefer extra-config over include =E2=80=93 extra-config doesn't ne= ed to >> > go through file-like objects and an additional layer of G- >> > Expression quoting. >> > >> > Cheers >> >> It is difficult to determine which rules to define as records, but I >> thought that if I only had includes, I could handle most use cases. > Go for the obvious low-hanging fruits and typical use cases first. > Don't just add a field that requires a depth of 3 or more to be useful. > >> For example, we assume that you will be able to write settings as >> follows: >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> (service home-fontconfig-service-type >> =C2=A0 (home-fontconfig-configuration >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (includes >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (list >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (include >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (path "~/.config/= fontconfig/my-fonts1.conf") >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (ignore-missing #= t)))))) >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> ref: >> https://github.com/freedesktop/fontconfig/blob/e291fda7d42e5d64379555097= a066d9c2c4efce3/fonts.dtd#L59-L74 >> >> Would it also fit with your assumption if we could also specify >> extra-config here? >> >> It is difficult to judge whether the ability to specify includes is >> useful or not, though, since extra-config alone will do the job. > Except for possibly some fringe use cases, include will be pointless if > you have extra-config, which is a better include :) > > Cheers I have designed a configuration interface with a typical font configuration pattern. (it implemented yet.) --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (service home-fontconfig-service-type (home-fontconfig-configuration (font-directories (list "~/fonts")) (prefered-default-font (sans-serif "Noto Sans CJK JP") (serif "Noto Serif CJK JP") (monospace "PlemolJP Console")) (extra-config ; Also accepts lists of XML strings. `((match (@ (target font)) (edit (@ (mode assign) (name antialias)) (bool true))))))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This is assumed to be serialized below. (actually, it not pretty-printed.) --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~/.guix-home/profile/share/fonts ~/fonts sans-serif Noto Sans CJK JP serif Noto Serif CJK JP monospace PlemolJP Console true --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- How about this? --=20 Cheers Taiju