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From: zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze)
To: Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
Cc: 36404@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#36404] [PATCH 2/5] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications.
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:03:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y31h9ubg.fsf@sdf.lonestar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87blyfl0jm.fsf@dustycloud.org> (Christopher Lemmer Webber's message of "Sun, 30 Jun 2019 08:28:45 -0400")

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Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> writes:

> Right now it looks like you're hard-coding dispatch into the procedure
> by doing a case analysis of what type it is, but this doesn't allow us
> to extend it.
>
> Here I'd look at how service-type works. Check out gnu/services.scm
> and then some examples of how services are defined in say,
> gnu/services/admin.scm or something (eg rotlog-service-type). I'm not
> saying structure it in exactly this way, but that seems to be the
> right general pattern to do extensibility in the guix'y way:
>
>  - Have a common outer type (eg <service-type>) which actually sets up
>    the structure of this service type
>  - Then have the actual records that are specific to the service type
>    represented as the service-value.
>
> Section 8.16.2 "Serivce Types and Services" and 6.16.3 "Service
> Reference" for details.
>
> Note that I wish there was a way to generalize the ideas behind this
> pattern rather than have it be reinvented for everything that needs
> them. This is part of why David and I turned to GOOPS in the initial
> prototype implementation; it's a lot of work figuring out how to set
> up extensibility in this way, at least for me. You might want to write
> a quick GOOPS version to understand what all the parameters are that
> are needed, then convert it to the services way of doing a general
> structure that wraps a specific structure.
>
> I suspect you won't need as much composability as services currently
> need, so the implementation of whatever this extensibility is is
> probably not as complicated as it is for services.
>
> As for how to share the ssh code, maybe just having the building-block
> procedures is good enough?
>
> Since all we support, so far, is this kind of ssh'ing, I don't want
> this to block the patch though. It could be that we file this as a bug
> and add a TODO above the code for the moment saying "we know this
> isn't right/ideal". However, there is some risk that this could result
> in people writing out machine configurations that later break... I
> dunno.
>
> Thoughts?

Ah, so you mean having the configuration as part of the environment type
rather than the machine type? I think that does make more sense... If
that is what you meant, let me know and I'll send another patch
implementing the change tomorrow. It should be an easy fix.

> If you remove it, please leave a comment noting the difference between
> this and "guix system" and why you thought it was safe to remove.  If it
> turns out to not be the case, there's a breadcrumb there to figure out
> how to add it back.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-02  0:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-27 18:35 [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/6] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-27 18:38 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 1/6] Take another stab at this whole guix deploy thing Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-27 18:39   ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 2/6] ssh: Add 'identity' keyword to 'open-ssh-session' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-27 18:40     ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 3/6] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-27 18:40       ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 4/6] Export the (gnu machine) interface Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-27 18:41         ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 5/6] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-27 18:42           ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 6/6] doc: Add section for " Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-29 21:43             ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-06-30  0:35               ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-29 21:38           ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 5/6] Add " Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-06-29 21:36         ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 4/6] Export the (gnu machine) interface Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-06-29 22:04         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-06-30  0:41           ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-27 20:05 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/6] Add 'guix deploy' Thompson, David
2019-06-28 13:34   ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/5] " Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-28 13:35     ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 1/5] ssh: Add 'identity' keyword to 'open-ssh-session' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-28 13:35       ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 2/5] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-28 13:36         ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 3/5] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-28 13:37           ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 4/5] Export the (gnu machine) interface Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-28 13:37             ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 5/5] doc: Add section for 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-29 21:36         ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 2/5] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-06-30  0:30           ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-30  4:58             ` Carlo Zancanaro
2019-06-30 12:34               ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-07-01 23:51                 ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-04 12:48                   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-07-04 16:05                     ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-30 12:28             ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-07-02  0:03               ` Jakob L. Kreuze [this message]
2019-06-29 14:42       ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 1/5] ssh: Add 'identity' keyword to 'open-ssh-session' Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-06-29 23:45         ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-06-29 14:37 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/6] Add 'guix deploy' Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-06-29 23:42   ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-01 12:50     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-01 10:09   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-07-01 12:53   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-02  0:10     ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02 22:14       ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-04 16:48         ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05  8:00           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-05 23:45             ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/3] Refactor out common behavior for system reconfiguration Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05 23:46               ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 1/3] guix system: Add 'reconfigure' module Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05 23:47                 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 2/3] machine: Reimplement 'managed-host-environment-type' deployment Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05 23:48                   ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 3/3] guix system: Reimplement 'reconfigure' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-06 22:20                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-06 22:13                   ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 2/3] machine: Reimplement 'managed-host-environment-type' deployment Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-07  7:13                   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-07-07 13:05                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-06 22:11                 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 1/3] guix system: Add 'reconfigure' module Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-06 22:02               ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/3] Refactor out common behavior for system reconfiguration Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-07  7:02               ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-07-07 13:06                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-08 19:22                   ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02  0:14     ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/4] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02  0:16       ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 1/4] ssh: Add 'identity' keyword to 'open-ssh-session' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02  0:17         ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 2/4] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02  0:17           ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 3/4] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02  0:18             ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 4/4] doc: Add section for " Jakob L. Kreuze
     [not found]               ` <875zoldqah.fsf@kyleam.com>
     [not found]                 ` <87muhwtmfp.fsf@sdf.lonestar.org>
     [not found]                   ` <871rz874l2.fsf@kyleam.com>
     [not found]                     ` <877e90tj7l.fsf_-_@sdf.lonestar.org>
2019-07-02 17:56                       ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 1/4] ssh: Add 'identity' keyword to 'open-ssh-session' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02 17:56                         ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 2/4] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02 17:57                           ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 3/4] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-02 17:58                             ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 4/4] doc: Add section for " Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-03 23:07                               ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-07-04  9:20                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-05  1:39                               ` Thompson, David
2019-07-05  8:29                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-05  1:35                             ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 3/4] Add " Thompson, David
2019-07-05  8:17                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-04  9:19                           ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 2/4] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-04 15:59                             ` Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05  1:32                           ` Thompson, David
2019-07-05  8:10                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-05  8:24                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-05 18:53                             ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v5 0/4] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05 18:54                               ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v5 1/4] ssh: Add 'identity' keyword to 'open-ssh-session' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05 18:55                                 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v5 2/4] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05 18:56                                   ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v5 3/4] Add 'guix deploy' Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-05 18:57                                     ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v5 4/4] doc: Add section for " Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-06  6:14                                       ` bug#36404: " Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-07-05 23:25                                         ` [bug#36404] " Jakob L. Kreuze
2019-07-06 21:50                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-05  1:23                         ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 1/4] ssh: Add 'identity' keyword to 'open-ssh-session' Thompson, David
2019-07-01 12:48 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH 0/6] Add 'guix deploy' Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-05 10:32 ` [bug#36404] [PATCH v4 2/4] gnu: Add machine type for deployment specifications Christopher Lemmer Webber

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