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However, =E2=80=98-D=E2=80=99 here affects o= nly the immediately >> following package, whereas =E2=80=98--ad-hoc=E2=80=99 would affect every= package that >> follows. > > I must not know the correct terminology; that's what I was trying to > ask. > > Can we keep the old behavior? Or do we think this new way of doing it > is better? What do you mean by =E2=80=9Cold behavior=E2=80=9D? I think there=E2=80=99s large consensus that =E2=80=98--ad-hoc=E2=80=99 sho= uld be the default, and that=E2=80=99s the main motivation behind this patch series. As for =E2=80=98-D=E2=80=99: we could arrange so that it has effect on all = the following packages. However, if we did that, we=E2=80=99d need to reintroduce =E2=80= =98--ad-hoc=E2=80=99 to cancel the effect of =E2=80=98-D=E2=80=99. More importantly, I think having =E2=80=98-D=E2=80=99 affect only the immed= iately following package is more consistent with typical usage=E2=80=94I don=E2=80= =99t think I=E2=80=99ve ever run =E2=80=98guix environment foo bar baz=E2=80=99 to get= the merged development environments of all three packages. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.