Hello everybody, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Mittwoch, dem 11.01.2023 um 23:31 +0100 schrieb zimoun: [...] >> I agree with Maxim’s arguments.  From my point of view, unrar-free >> respects FSDG – and since it is present in Trisquel, I assume this >> understanding of FSDG is shared – to some extent. I also agree with _both_ Maxim arguments: 1. unrar-free is FSDG compliant, and I cannot see how this can be defined "point of view" :-) 2. 'unrar-free' potentially steering users toward 'unrar' (non-free) cannot be used as an argument to refuse 'unrar-free' inclusion in Guix Liliana please reply to this two specific points, in particular please tell us if you judge 'unrar-free' not to be FSDG compliant >> Even, I would say the Liliana’s opposite argument: it liberates user >> from the non-free unrar by offering a free alternative.  And it is >> the case for all the free re-implementations, no? > From my point of view, it really doesn't. [...] > But as it stands right now, I see it as little more than a piece of > software that makes people go "but how do I get the _real_ unrar?", (I don't understand "cue people": is it a misprint?) OK I think you explained this argument very well and this goes under point 2. above: 'unrar-free' potentially steering users toward 'unrar' non-free I'd say that all liberated versions of non-free software could make people go "how do I get the _real_ one", no? For example Guix distributed browsers are lacking EME implementation (no DRM loading) and some other non-free "extensions" giving problems to users trying to use certain web services; we have ungoogled-chromium and I know people asking "how do I get the real Chrome"? > cue people sending each other advice on a certain channel dedicated to > non-free software. So, if I understand your last point, the problem you see is that "unrar-free" (alone?) steers people to send each other advice on channels including non-free software: could this be a reason not to include a FSDG compliant software in Guix? ...or it's just it's name containing 'unrar'? Cheers -- Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures