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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: 74736@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: "Noé Lopez" <noe@xn--no-cja.eu>, "Noé Lopez" <noelopez@free.fr>,
	"Christopher Baines" <mail@cbaines.net>,
	"Simon Tournier" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Subject: [bug#74736] [PATCH v6] Add Request-for-Comments process.
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 23:29:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y0zn4lvi.fsf_-_@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba6a719d836bb717d72e42688ba7592e1c19ec4c.1735927931.git.zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> (Simon Tournier's message of "Fri, 3 Jan 2025 19:14:40 +0100")

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Hello,

As proposed before, here’s a reworked version based on v5.  The intent
is to keep the spirit and process unchanged compared to v5, while making
the document a bit more concise (239 lines, v5 was 322), improving
consistency for key words, hopefully improving wording, fixing
grammatical issues, and adding Markdown ornaments where appropriate.

Notable changes:

  • Instead of “supporter” and “co-supporter”, I propose “author(s)” and
    “supporter(s)” (there must be at least one supporter).

  • Explicitly state the license of RFCs (CC-BY-SA or GFDL).

  • Clarify that the deliberation period lasts exactly 14 days (was “up
    to 14 days” in one place, “14 days” in another).

  • Consistently name the different periods.

  • Remove mention of the ‘withdrawn/’ directory: it’s redundant with
    the ‘status’ header.

  • Clarify what to do with “deprecated” RFCs.

  • Clarify headers of this RFC.

  • Clarify that this is not just for technical changes.
  
I can proofread and possibly propose minor tweaks the template
afterwards.

Thoughts?

Ludo’.


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title: Requests-for-Comment Process
id: 000
status: submitted
discussion: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/74736
authors: Simon Tournier, Noé Lopez, Ludovic Courtès
supporters: ?
submitted: 2024-12-12
date: 2025-01-15
---

# Summary

This document describes the _request for comments_ (RFC) process of the
Guix project.  The RFC process is intended to provide a consistent and
structured way to propose, discuss, and decide on major changes
affecting the project.  It aims to draw attention of community members
on important decisions, technical or not, and to give them a chance to
weigh in.

# Motivation

Day-to-day work on Guix revolves around informal interactions, peer
review, and consensus-based decision making.  As the community grows, so
does the stream of proposed changes, and no single person is able to
keep track of all of them.

The RFC process is a mechanism to determine whether a proposed change is
“significant” enough to require attention from the community at large
and if so, to provide a documented way to bring about broad community
discussion and to collectively decide on the proposal.

A change may be deemed “significant” when it could only be reverted at a
high cost or, for technical changes, when it has the potential to
disrupt user scripts and programs or user workflows.  Examples include:

- changing the `<package>` record type and/or its interfaces;
- adding or removing a `guix` sub-command;
- changing the channel mechanism;
- changing project governance policy such as teams, decision making, the
  deprecation policy, or this very document;
- changing the contributor workflow and related infrastructure (mailing
  lists, source code repository and forge, continuous integration, etc.)

# Detailed Design

## When to Follow This Process

The RFC process applies only to “significant” changes, which include:

- changes that modify user-facing interfaces that may be relied on
  (command-line interfaces, core Scheme interfaces);
- big restructuring of packages;
- hard to revert changes;
- significant project infrastructure or workflow changes;
- governance or changes to the way we collaborate.

Someone submitting a patch for any such change may be asked to submit an
RFC first.

Most day-to-day contributions do *not* require an RFC; examples include:

- adding or updating packages, removing outdated packages;
- fixing security issues and bugs in a way that does not change
  interfaces;
- updating the manual, updating translations;
- changing the configuration of systems part of project infrastructure
  in a user-invisible way.

These day-to-day contributions remain governed by the process described
by the manual in its “Contributing” chapter.

## How the Process Works

1. Clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix/requests-for-comments.git .
2. Copy `0000-template.md` to `00XY-short-name.md` where `short-name`
   is a short descriptive name long and `XY` is the sequence number.
3. Write your RFC following the template’s structure.  The RFC must not
   be prospective; it must formalize an idea and sketch a plan to
   implement it, even if not all details are known.  If it intends to
   deprecate a previously-accepted RFC, it must explicitly say so.
4. Submit the RFC as a patch to `guix-patches@gnu.org`.
5. Announce your RFC at `guix-devel@gnu.org` and look for *supporters*:
   one or more people who will support the RFC and participate in
   discussions by your side (see below).

The RFC is *submitted* once it has at least one supporter in addition to
the author(s).

## Supporters

A supporter is a contributor sufficiently familiar with the project’s
practices, hence it is recommended, but not mandatory, to be a team
member.  Supporters do not have to agree with all the points of the RFC
but should generally be satisfied that the proposed additions are a good
thing for the community.

Supporters help the author(s) by participating in discussions, amending
the document as it is being discussed, and acting as timekeepers.

## Timeline

The lifetime of an RFC is structured into the following recommended
periods:

![diagram.svg](Diagram of the RFC process.)

```dot <- TODO: make this a separate file
digraph "RFC Timeline" {
    submission[label=<Submission Period<br />up to 7 days>]
    comments[label=<Discussion Period<br />30–60 days>]
    deliberation[label=<Deliberation Period<br />14 days>]
    withdrawn[label=Withdrawn, shape=rectangle]
    final[label=Final, shape=rectangle]
    
    submission -> comments
    submission -> withdrawn
    comments -> deliberation
    deliberation -> withdrawn
    deliberation -> final
    
    withdrawn -> submission [label="New version"]
    
    comments -> withdrawn
}
```

The subsections below detail the various stages and their duration.

### Submission Period (up to 7 days)

Anyone can author and submit an RFC as a regular patch and look for
supporters (see below).  The RFC is *submitted* once it has one or more
supporters; the next step is the *discussion period*.

Author(s) may withdraw their RFC at any time; they can resubmit it again
later, possibly under a new RFC number.

### Discussion Period (at least 30 days, up to 60 days)

Once submitted, the RFC is publicly discussed; authors are encouraged to
publish updated versions incorporating feedback during the discussion.

Once the discussion settles, at the latest after 60 days, the author(s)
publish a final version, leading to the *deliberation period*.

### Deliberation Period (14 days)

All members of any team of the Guix project can participate in
deliberation and are encouraged to do so.

Once the final version is published, team members have 14 days to send
one of the following replies on the patch-tracking entry of the RFC:

- “I support”, meaning that one supports the proposal);
- “I accept”, meaning that one consents to the implementation of the
  proposal;
- “I disapprove”, meaning that one opposes the implementation of the
  proposal.  A team member sending this reply must have actively
  proposed alternative solutions during the discussion period.

The RFC is *accepted* if (1) at least 25% of all team members send a
reply, and (2) no one disagrees.  In other cases, the RFC is
*withdrawn*.

Deliberation aims at consolidating consensus; see “Decision Making”
below.

RFC acceptance is not a rubber stamp; in particular, it does not mean
the proposal will effectively be implemented, but it does mean that all
the participants consent to its implementation.

Similarly, withdrawal does not necessarily equate with rejection; it
could mean that more discussion and thought is needed before ideas in
the RFC are accepted by the community.

## Decision Making

Contributors and even more so team members are expected to help build
consensus.  By using consensus, we are committed to finding solutions
that everyone can live with.

Thus, no decision is made against significant concerns; these concerns
are actively resolved through counter proposals.  A deliberating member
disapproving a proposal bears a responsibility for finding alternatives,
proposing ideas or code, or explaining the rationale for the status quo.

To learn what consensus decision making means and understand its finer
details, you are encouraged to read
https://www.seedsforchange.org.uk/consensus .

## Merging Final RFCs

Whether it is accepted or withdrawn, a committer merges the final RFC
following these steps:

1. filling in the remaining metadata in the RFC headers (changing the
   `status` to `accepted` or `withdrawn`; adding the URL of the
   discussion in the `discussion` header; updating the `date` header; if
   previously-accepted RFCs are deprecated by this new RFC, change the
   `status` header accordingly);
2. committing everything;
3. announcing the publication of the RFC.

All the RFCs are dual-licensed under the [Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike
4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) license and the
[GNU Free Documentation License 1.3, with no Invariant Sections, no
Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover
Texts](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.html).

## RFC Template

The expected structure of RFCs is captured by the template in the file
`0000-template.md`, written in English with Markdown ornaments.

## Cost of Reverting

The RFC process described in this documented can be amended by
subsequent RFCs.

## Drawbacks

There is a risk that the additional process will hinder contribution more than
it would help.  We should stay alert that the process is only a way to help
contribution, not an end in itself.

Discussions could easily have a low signal-to-noise ratio.  We will
collectively pay attention to over- and under-representation of voices
and notably avoid repeating arguments, avoid using exclusionary jargon,
and solicit opinions of those who remained silent.

## Open Issues

There are still questions regarding the desired scope of the process.
While we want to ensure that technical changes that affect users are
well-considered, we certainly don’t want the process to become unduly
burdensome.  This is a careful balance which will require care to
maintain moving forward.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-06 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-08 12:29 [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] Add Request-For-Comment process Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-08 12:31 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 1/1] rfc: " Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-12 18:14   ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-12 19:47     ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-14 10:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-23 17:58         ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-26 11:15           ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-09 20:47 ` Artyom V. Poptsov
2024-12-12 19:30 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v3] rfc: " Simon Tournier
2024-12-14 10:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-22 13:06   ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-22 13:56 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v4 0/1] " Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-22 13:56   ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v4 1/1] " Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-23 14:42     ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-23 17:33       ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-26 11:28         ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-31 15:23           ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-29 18:31       ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-30 11:03         ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-30 11:58           ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2025-01-04 17:28             ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-05 12:51               ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2025-01-06 10:29                 ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-06 17:40                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-03 18:14 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v5] rfc: " Simon Tournier
2025-01-06 22:29   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2025-01-07 17:06     ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v6] Add Request-for-Comments process Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
     [not found]     ` <825F8319-4F41-4F4C-81B3-2C84A73A13CF@housseini.me>
2025-01-08  6:33       ` reza via Guix-patches via
2025-01-07 19:40 ` [bug#74736] Add Request-For-Comment process Ricardo Wurmus

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