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[194.254.61.40]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-38a8e320329sm4498521f8f.0.2025.01.10.05.02.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 10 Jan 2025 05:02:32 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Tournier In-Reply-To: <87h667nmdk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y0zn4lvi.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87h667nmdk.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:45:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87y0zikfch.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.71 X-Spam-Score: 1.71 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2EC1B1B85D X-TUID: rowOZt+zWKB9 Hi Janneke, On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 at 08:44, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote: >> # Motivation > > Am I right that the main purpose/intent is (not trying to twist anyone's = words) [...] > * to draw more attention to / have important discussions stand out > more in all the "noise", and guided by [...] > * a collective decision on what "important" is? Yes! :-) > A drawback could be that it slows > development down, but for important changes that may be a good thing? I would you say yes :-) And I would also say it=E2=80=99s a counter measure against =E2=80=9CWhy wa= sn't I consulted=E2=80=9C [1] or some bullet points [2] from the talk that appear = to me helpful and that had been inspiration. 1: https://youtu.be/m0rakUuPXFM 2: https://simon.tournier.info/posts/2023-10-30-toward-rfc.html > The only things that I could suggest is to see if we should make it even > be more lightweight/nimble as a first version, e.g, require only two > *persons*, so that two authors could start a submission > > The RFC is *submitted* once it has at least one co-author or > supporter in addition to the initial author(s). Ah you mean that the case of =E2=80=99two authors=E2=80=99 does not require= a Sponsor*, right? *Sponsor: was =E2=80=99Supporter=E2=80=99 but renamed in order to avoid con= fusion between supporting the Document before the Discussion Period and replying =E2=80=99I support=E2=80=99 during the Delibration Period. > or use shorter periods, e.g. > > submission[label=3Dup to 7=C2=A0days>] > comments[label=3D15=E2=80=9360=C2=A0days>] > deliberation[label=3D8-14=C2=A0days>] > > but I have no strong opinion on these. About the Discussion Period, I do not have an opinion. From my intuition, it appears to be helpful when all have the time and space for expressing their comments. About the Deliberation Period, I think we need to have enough time and 2 weeks sound the good range based on what we are already doing for patch review. Thanks for the comments. Cheers, simon