From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 2MuMJM6TtV/jGQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:36:14 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id 8kVdIM6TtV9kOwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:36:14 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 238E9940111 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:33952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7d-0006ad-4S for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:36:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7S-0006WS-V3 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:36:02 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7S-0002WT-LY for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:36:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7S-0003rl-Jp for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:36:02 -0500 Subject: bug#43920: [SHEPHERD PATCH] shepherd: Move log file to XDG_CACHE_DIR. Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 43920 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Efraim Flashner Cc: Leo Prikler , "Jan \(janneke\) Nieuwenhuizen" , 43920-done@debbugs.gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: 43920@debbugs.gnu.org, ludo@gnu.org, efraim@flashner.co.il Received: via spool by 43920-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D43920.160573535614830 (code D ref 43920); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 43920-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2020 21:35:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36692 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7M-0003r8-3D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:35:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42472) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7K-0003qt-9G for 43920-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:35:54 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34409) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7C-0002Vn-UC; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:35:46 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=54722 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV7C-0000tG-BM; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:35:46 -0500 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <87h7qjiore.fsf@gnu.org> <5115DA89-FC2F-4B00-8F3B-D461908E1775@flashner.co.il> <87pn55cmdy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:35:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pn55cmdy.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:27:53 +0100") Message-ID: <87wnyijqkw.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.51 X-TUID: awbo78pecCJx Hi, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skribis: > Efraim Flashner skribis: > >> On October 24, 2020 4:15:33 PM UTC, "Ludovic Court=C3=A8s" wrote: > > [...] > >>>>> The previous location wasn=E2=80=99t perfect, but the proposed one is= n=E2=80=99t >>>>> great >>>>> either: one can generally assume =E2=80=9Crm -rf ~/.cache=E2=80=9D wo= n=E2=80=99t lose >>>>> anything >>>>> that cannot be reconstructed, and the log is something that cannot be >>>>> reconstructed. > > [...] > >> I don't think it's really data, it's not like it belongs in something/sh= are. As another data point keybase writes its (verbose) logs in .cache/keyb= ase. > > To me the question whether it=E2=80=99s OK to lose the log. In a way, st= oring > the log in ~/.cache akin to storing it in /tmp. > > If we agree on that, then we have the choice between ~/.local/share > aka. XDG_DATA_HOME (like Xorg does), or maybe using ~/.local/var/log or > something similar that goes beyond XDG? I pushed a variant of your patch that uses XDG_DATA_HOME instead: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/shepherd.git/commit/?id=3Dc6382a6898f28= 51d78b675f209787c5ff9ad4320 There=E2=80=99s a now =E2=80=98%user-log-dir=E2=80=99 so it=E2=80=99ll be e= asier to adjust going forward if we change our mind. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.