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Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70280 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Cc: 70280@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 70280-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70280.17133670084387 (code B ref 70280); Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 70280) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2024 15:16:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rx71e-00017x-4u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:16:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50688) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rx71U-000165-DR for 70280@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:16:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rx71A-0000Yj-V5; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:16:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=fO+7ZkpLbYyo6P9c71w0EF1qcb9s5Ler8ZA3/fnG8Ko=; b=K61HtMD0GgKrCyKXubG4 wiwSOULTY/hOD4Q9qXVNeWbBRB1RLYHySXUb9j84QBpYWhONeRESjTOg8hKDEOim8wb1bC2wPfj3a eXP1Cv+wlR+MAQwcvaWNDg12nFW85m3Bg+ZDwvWOqbxM22CRwh7pEdVT0IN3S+IrCGB1Pboaqatzx Sk2cATobeqz3io6C0wyKhxW0g2xju1zGO9/O4JzvYBZqohyrKKoayBVeWVFsjRqiyBJReaZXCnIOC Go52zPoRpnh/A9wHDyq9ESNUpTToQoFm2yAD84eOs6MShaEl0E3lJGf4FOnoO7IZjVm+Z9fOMMYzO 0AtleDnBS13wEA==; From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= In-Reply-To: <875xwinssl.fsf@pelzflorian.de> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:51:38 +0200") References: <184c38bf07d985a8831f60024a2ae94e2fd6804d.1712585810.git.ludo@gnu.org> <871q7dshxr.fsf@pelzflorian.de> <87ttk2zjai.fsf@gnu.org> <875xwinssl.fsf@pelzflorian.de> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 17:16:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87v84gggud.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.06 X-Spam-Score: -7.06 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 77A5919A49 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: iCYrIZ3h5h16 "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [...] >> I would call it a semantic change rather than a regression (a feature >> rather than a bug :-)). >> >> It=E2=80=99s more in line with what we=E2=80=99re doing elsewhere: the d= efault is to >> include =E2=80=98locale=E2=80=99 in the locale definitions, but we let t= he user override >> that if they wish. > > > It is a regression when with the same OS config.scm, my GNOME is no > longer in German. Perhaps I=E2=80=99m missing something, but the only ga= in from > making it configurable to not include the configured default locale in > locale-definitions would be that it becomes possible to not include the > default locale language=E2=80=99s utf8 encoding, but utf8 is good for eve= ryone. OK, let=E2=80=99s drop this patch then. I was focusing on interface consistency but in this particular case what you describe suggests interface consistency is a secondary concern. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.