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Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 11:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74290 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Cc: 74290@debbugs.gnu.org, Josselin Poiret , Ekaitz Zarraga , Simon Tournier , Mathieu Othacehe , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , Efraim Flashner , Andreas Enge , Christopher Baines Received: via spool by 74290-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74290.173210331331137 (code B ref 74290); Wed, 20 Nov 2024 11:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 74290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2024 11:48:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tDjCD-000867-2d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:48:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52756) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tDjCA-00085s-MA for 74290@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:48:31 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tDjC3-0000Q8-FK; Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:48:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=UjIpWxIQIT996Y3enoeriPk2ZnfVknou0184QeB1JOw=; b=KKzHLd1cxoi00dEQ7KDd Uax5o7HiDedsRsBH/38w/zQi2tmW/dROMiJQy5j6qMSY8z0bdsk9PTRs4aGKWCxnsXI3Vu3netVhm s572RXIYtl9o3t2gluiIzkZJqO+PVitTs9w3SkHzhbDu4jmmCnPqc59zfJvXxumaFXMFD4jCvJV+3 br7jTcbRBONZZwiePp+dMHb77oSDjjWDqo59WniLGL0O/aL+eBvl6omH4Fn1Hemv6nkWbzRJuOTN9 HdhPriDk/OejlI+ZxqCPlU3lpUAepkKz2GUQMwte1FjxhrR5QU20SP/T+lrlGJDgaEey6Spi5e4+h f+6hQlgQxPxHog==; From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= In-Reply-To: <87o72dn544.fsf@gnu.org> (janneke@gnu.org's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:26:51 +0100") References: <99a9152dc069538a151504d65b85fd5105149a51.1731427612.git.janneke@gnu.org> <87mshxkd89.fsf@gnu.org> <87o72dn544.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: =?UTF-8?Q?D=C3=A9cadi?= 30 Brumaire an 233 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution,?= jour du Rouleau X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:48:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87v7wixh17.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8382F8835C X-TUID: novTBTUConEw Hi, skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [...] >> how about changing the GCC version used for cross-compilation, and >> only that: >> >> diff --git a/gnu/packages/cross-base.scm b/gnu/packages/cross-base.scm >> index 5781341a87..6120740b3c 100644 >> --- a/gnu/packages/cross-base.scm >> +++ b/gnu/packages/cross-base.scm >> @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@ (define-syntax %xgcc >> ;; >> ;; Note: This is a macro so that we do not refer to 'gcc' from the top >> ;; level, which would lead to circular-dependency issues. >> - (identifier-syntax gcc)) >> + (identifier-syntax gcc-14)) > > Interesting...I would have thought this would cause a world rebuild, > because of the cross-gcc in commencement. Apparently, it doesn't. > >> That would affect also non-Hurd cross-compilation targets, but if it >> works, it=E2=80=99s simpler. > > Ok, I very much like the simplicity of this. Yay. >> Then, as a second step, we could prepare a =E2=80=98core-packages-team= =E2=80=99 branch >> that upgrades =E2=80=98gcc=E2=80=99 globally, and that way we keep somet= hing consistent >> and simpler, without =E2=80=98current-gcc=E2=80=99. (Though it means we= =E2=80=99d have to wait >> before we can build natively on x86_64-gnu.) >> >> WDYT? > > I've been thinking about this route and decided against it because it > seems to me that upgrading to gcc-14 will cause a lot of trouble/work. True. > However, if that work is shared, and we have the build farm to help, it > may be the best route. Maybe the wait doesn't have to be too long? > Also, in the mean time, upstream support might improve. Well yes, it=E2=80=99s going to take a bit of time, let=E2=80=99s face it. But hopefully quite a few of us would work on it and we=E2=80=99d set up ci= .guix to build the branch. Also, with the reduced scope of =E2=80=98core-packages=E2=80=99, I hope it = can be faster than =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99 was before. And we can choose to have = a cycle that changes very little beside GCC. > Maybe we can decide to go the route you propose and also keep this > current-gcc patch on the hurd-team branch for a bit (we prepend a fat > REMOVEME in front of it). We can keep working on native Hurd builds > that use gcc-14 on hurd-team using this hack, until core-packages-team > is ready to make it obsolete? Yes. At least, we can already merge cross-compilation support. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.