From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44299) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7h5u-0000f5-IO for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:17:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7h5q-0008M1-5j for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:17:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53597) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7h5q-0008Ln-25 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:17:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e7h5p-0005T3-Nv for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:17:01 -0400 Subject: [bug#28794] [PATCH] gnu: games: Add openrct2. Resent-Message-ID: From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira References: <87d15rqvna.fsf@gnu.org> <20171013114345.xyguob5nky7vluxr@abyayala> <87infg6296.fsf@hyperbola.info> <87zi8rh76f.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:16:10 -0200 In-Reply-To: <87zi8rh76f.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2017 09:40:24 +0200") Message-ID: <87tvymrto5.fsf@hyperbola.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+kyle=kyleam.com@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" To: 28794@debbugs.gnu.org I don't know which type of "data" is missing in OpenRCT2, but if one wants to be specific to non-functional data, something along the lines of: "Can't find 'OpenRCT2 non-functional data. Please provide one. It's recommended to be at least shareable." Or for general "data" either one of: - "Can't find 'OpenRCT2 data. Please provide one. It's recommended to be free/libre (as in freedom, not price)." Free/libre culture activists will love this one. ;) - "Can't find 'OpenRCT2 functional data. Please provide one. It's recommended to be free/libre (as in freedom, not price). Can't find 'OpenRCT2 non-functional data. Please provide one. It's recommended to be at least shareable." Two messages here. The logic here is to split the types of data. I wish I could have time to make the patch right now, but I have my bachelor graduation paper/work to do right now. Off-topic: the work is about the importance of free/libre software *philosophy* to university management and teaching-learning process. Work is being done at [1], if you want to contribute see [2]. [1] . [2] Copyright will have to be assigned to me, but I will at least give detailed mention of the contributions in the "thanks"/greetings part/page of the work. ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Hi Adonay, > > Adonay Felipe Nogueira skribis: > >> One of the bigger problems I find with such projects that aim to provide >> an "engine" for running such games is that there doesn't seem to have an >> effort to make the other "data" replacement. Most projects start only >> with engine replacements and don't have a taskforce to provide >> free/libre "data" replacement. > > Clearly the raison d=E2=80=99=C3=AAtre of a project like this one is to p= rovide a > free replacement of the software. So we cannot blame people behind it > for not doing enough, even though I share your concern. > > As for artwork, Rutger mentioned that people behind OpenRCT2 are willing > to provide free artwork eventually. I can imagine that this is more > =E2=80=9Cdifficult=E2=80=9D in that it=E2=80=99s a completely different j= ob. > >> Now, it's true that if it's free/libre software, it might be possible to >> add it to some free/libre distro. But the challenge is that these >> projects seem to do little effort to not recommend non-free functional >> data or non-shareable non-functional data. Such that even the software >> itself directly tells something along the lines of "this is used to run >> Some Non Free Game", instead of using a message like "please specify a >> [insert data pack standard abbreviation here] file", so perhaps it must >> be patched to remove the first messages? > > Sure. Do you have any specific message in mind? > > Thanks, > Ludo=E2=80=99. > --=20 - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (n=C3=A3o confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele n=C3=A3o =C3=A9 livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comun= icar instantaneamente comigo no endere=C3=A7o abaixo. - Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV. - Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padr=C3=A3o ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.