From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id kIEfG4aJ4l7ASAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 19:44:06 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id eIWbFoaJ4l4MHAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 19:44:06 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D31CF940418 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 19:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46822 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT7M-00072F-PV for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:44:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT7J-00070f-Uz for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:44:01 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54843) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT7J-0000hT-MB for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:44:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT7J-00065I-KW for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:44:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#41785] [PATCH] DRAFT services: Add 'hurd-in-vm service-type'. Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 19:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41785 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Mathieu Othacehe Cc: 41785@debbugs.gnu.org, "Jan \(janneke\) Nieuwenhuizen" Received: via spool by 41785-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41785.159190462023340 (code B ref 41785); Thu, 11 Jun 2020 19:44:01 +0000 Received: (at 41785) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2020 19:43:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38156 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT6x-00064O-O7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:43:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT6w-00064B-Bi for 41785@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:43:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT6q-0000Od-9i; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:43:32 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:6a6c:dc17:fc02:cfda] (port=52102 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jjT6o-0001zL-V8; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:43:31 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20200610085441.890-1-janneke@gnu.org> <87r1unm9xy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 21:43:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r1unm9xy.fsf@gnu.org> (Mathieu Othacehe's message of "Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:34:01 +0200") Message-ID: <87tuzh9yn3.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-TUID: IHQCkqrJxJrR Hi, Mathieu Othacehe skribis: > Just to clarify things here, we now have the "disk-image" command that > produces a Hurd bootable disk-image. The "vm-image" command is almost > working, and should produce a very similar result. > > The "vm" command that produces a vm-image and spawns a VM isn't working > yet with the Hurd. This command is for now passing directly "kernel" and > "initrd" arguments to QEMU, so a few adaptations will be needed. > > Now the goad of hurd-in-vm-service-type is to provide a service that > does almost the same thing as the "vm" command, but as a service, right? That=E2=80=99s my understanding. > So, I don't get why would we need to run a Hurd VM inside a VM. I've > been struggling a lot with running nested layers of virtualization (for > system generation before the recent patches), and the result is often > too slow to be really usable. I guess it=E2=80=99s useful if you want to test a GNU/Linux system that use= s the VM service, as in: guix system vm my-gnu+linux.scm where =E2=80=98my-gnu+linux.scm=E2=80=99 contains: (services (cons (service hurd-vm-service-type) =E2=80=A6)) I suppose it should just work, though probably without =E2=80=98-enable-kvm= =E2=80=99; janneke? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.