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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: 58812@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#58812] [PATCH 0/5] Add --symlink option to 'guix shell'.
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 15:17:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfiqhp1u.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsery05t.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Wed, 09 Nov 2022 22:10:38 -0500")

Hi Maxim!

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

>> We should refrain from using @ref in sentences (info "(texinfo) @ref").
>> Instead, I’d write:
>>
>>   documented for @command{guix pack} (@pxref{pack-symlink-option}).
>
> I've heard that from you before, but is there a reason against?  I like
> to know the rationale for doing things a certain way, lest I forget :-).
> From info '(texinfo) @ref':

It’s right below the bit you quoted:

     The '@ref' command can tempt writers to express themselves in a
  manner that is suitable for a printed manual but looks awkward in the
  Info format.  Bear in mind that your audience could be using both the
  printed and the Info format.  For example: […]

>>> +(define (make-symlink->directives directory)
>>> +  "Return a procedure that turn symlinks specs into directives that target
>>> +DIRECTORY."
>>> +  (match-lambda
>>> +    ((source '-> target)
>>> +     (let ((target (string-append directory "/" target))
>>> +           (parent (dirname source)))
>>> +       ;; Never add a 'directory' directive for "/" so as to preserve its
>>> +       ;; ownership and avoid adding the same entries multiple times.
>>> +       `(,@(if (string=? parent "/")
>>> +               '()
>>> +               `((directory ,parent)))
>>> +         ;; Note: a relative file name is used for compatibility with
>>> +         ;; relocatable packs.
>>> +         (,source -> ,(relative-file-name parent target)))))))
>>
>> I think it’s a case where I would refrain from factorizing because this
>> procedure, as shown by the comments and the use of ‘relative-file-name’,
>> is specifically tailored for the needs to ‘guix pack -f tarball’.
>>
>> I’d prefer to have a similar but independently maintained variant of
>> this procedure in (guix scripts environment) to avoid difficulties down
>> the road.
>
> I considered to duplicate it, but I opted to reuse it in the end because
> I care that the behavior is exactly the same between the two actions
> (guix shell --symlink vs guix pack --symlink).  If the way we handle
> this is to be changed in the future, I'd want both to be changed at
> once, so they remain consistent.  Does this make sense?

They don’t have to be consistent.  Use of ‘relative-file-name’ here for
example is dictated by the needs of relocatable packs.  It doesn’t have
to be this way here.

I think it’s best to keep separate copies here (they likely won’t be
exactly the same).

>>> +++ b/guix/scripts/environment.scm
>>> @@ -33,8 +33,10 @@ (define-module (guix scripts environment)
>>>    #:use-module ((guix gexp) #:select (lower-object))
>>>    #:use-module (guix scripts)
>>>    #:use-module (guix scripts build)
>>> +  #:use-module ((guix scripts pack) #:select (symlink-spec-option-parser))
>>
>> You can turn this into #:autoload so we don’t pay the price when not
>> using ‘--symlink’.
>
> Done!  Could Guile simply always use lazy loading (autoload by default)?

#:select could be synonymous with #:autoload, if that’s what you mean,
but in general Guile cannot know whether autoloading is semantically
equivalent to eagerly loading: there might be side-effects happening
when the top-level of the module runs.

> Otherwise, when is it OK to use autoload and when is it not?

#:autoload exists as a way to amortize initialization costs and make
sure only necessary functionality gets loaded, thereby reducing CPU and
memory usage.

Only the module user can tell whether #:autoload is appropriate.  In
general you’d use it for optional functionality that has a
non-negligible memory footprint or that would noticeably degrade startup
time.

Ludo’.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-10 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-27  3:41 [bug#58812] [PATCH 0/5] Add --symlink option to 'guix shell' Maxim Cournoyer
2022-10-27  3:50 ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 1/5] Makefile.am: Sort EXTRA_DIST entries Maxim Cournoyer
2022-10-27  3:50   ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 2/5] tests: Add a tests/utils.sh support file Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-09 21:07     ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 0/5] Add --symlink option to 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-10  3:38       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10  4:23       ` [bug#59164] [PATCH v2 1/4] Makefile.am: Sort EXTRA_DIST entries Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10  4:23         ` [bug#59161] [PATCH v2 2/4] install: Validate symlink target in evaluate-populate-directive Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10  4:23         ` [bug#59162] [PATCH v2 3/4] guix: shell: Add '--symlink' option Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10  4:23         ` [bug#59163] [PATCH v2 4/4] shell: Detect --symlink spec problems early Maxim Cournoyer
2022-10-27  3:50   ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 3/5] install: Validate symlink target in evaluate-populate-directive Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-09 21:06     ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 0/5] Add --symlink option to 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-10  3:37       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-17 17:37         ` [bug#59164] Coding style: similarly-named variables Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-17 18:44           ` [bug#58812] " zimoun
2022-11-18 17:02             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-21 15:02               ` zimoun
2022-11-21 15:52                 ` [bug#59164] " zimoun
2022-11-21 20:55                 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-22 14:35                   ` [bug#59164] " zimoun
2022-11-26 14:47                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-17 20:34           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-20 10:46             ` [bug#58812] " Ludovic Courtès
2022-10-27  3:50   ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 4/5] guix: shell: Add '--symlink' option Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-09 20:58     ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 0/5] Add --symlink option to 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-10  3:10       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10 14:17         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2022-11-10 14:49           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10 15:16             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-14  9:18               ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-10 16:05           ` [bug#58812] [PATCH v3 1/4] Makefile.am: Sort EXTRA_DIST entries Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10 16:05             ` [bug#58812] [PATCH v3 2/4] install: Validate symlink target in evaluate-populate-directive Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10 16:05             ` [bug#58812] [PATCH v3 3/4] guix: shell: Add '--symlink' option Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-10 16:05             ` [bug#58812] [PATCH v3 4/4] shell: Detect --symlink spec problems early Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-16 19:03       ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 0/5] Add --symlink option to 'guix shell' zimoun
2022-11-16 19:34         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-10-27  3:51   ` [bug#58812] [PATCH 5/5] shell: Detect --symlink spec problems early Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-15 21:24 ` bug#58812: [PATCH v3 1/4] " Maxim Cournoyer

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