From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52787) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIFBP-0008Je-1v for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:19:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIFBM-0001XF-Vh for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:19:10 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35437) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hIFBG-0001Uo-RE for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:19:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hIFBG-0008WG-HW for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:19:02 -0400 Subject: [bug#35234] [PATCH] gnu: Add the-dark-mod. Resent-Message-ID: From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20190411181644.21661-1-mail@ambrevar.xyz> <87d0lsib4l.fsf@elephly.net> <878swflfze.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87o95b31ta.fsf@elephly.net> <87mukvjusd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87ef5v78f8.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 18:18:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ef5v78f8.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Sun, 21 Apr 2019 16:13:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87pnpf72ns.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+kyle=kyleam.com@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: 35234@debbugs.gnu.org, Pierre Neidhardt Hi Ricardo, Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > Pierre Neidhardt writes: > >> Ricardo Wurmus writes: > [=E2=80=A6] >>> First: what game engines do we provide that can only be used with >>> proprietary game data? >> >> OpenMW, Arx Libertatis, OpenRCT2, off the top of my head. > > Hmm, that=E2=80=99s not good then. I think we should take a closer look = at them > to decide whether they should be removed. > > The description of Arx Libertatis says this: > > Arx Libertatis is a cross-platform, open source port of Arx Fatalis, > a 2002 first-person role-playing game / dungeon crawler developed by > Arkane Studios. This port however does not include the game data, so > you need to obtain a copy of the original Arx Fatalis or its demo to > play Arx Libertatis.[=E2=80=A6] > > Aside from the =E2=80=9Copen source=E2=80=9D mention I don=E2=80=99t thin= k it=E2=80=99s right for us to > recommend that users obtain a copy of a proprietary game. The =E2=80=9Cyou need to obtain a copy=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D bit is problematic= because it refers to non-free software. However, I believe it=E2=80=99s really talking about =E2=80=9Cnon-functiona= l data=E2=80=9D in FSDG terms: https://gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html#non-func= tional-data So, rephrased to suggest obtaining the non-free _data_, the sentence may be OK per the FSDG. The problem is that it=E2=80=99s maybe not that simple= to obtain the data without the non-free game=E2=80=A6 Thoughts? Now, I would hope that the free game engine could serve as the basis for a free game, with free game data as well. Ludo=E2=80=99.