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Where this old version A is reachable by "guix >> > time-machine". >> > >> > Maybe it does not make sense and it is not relevant. >> >> The default server that was hard-coded in Guix (or in GnuPG) in the past >> would still not work *now*, even using an older Guix commit :-). > > Yeah, for sure. My question is: because this server is not working > *now* and hard-coded on previous version, is "guix time-machine" still > working for all the subcommands? Or is it broken as collateral damage > of server down + hard coded? :-) guix time-machine is not broken as a whole, but the 'guix refresh --update' commands that makes use of the (guix gnupg) module would for sure in whichever commit of Guix, unless pool.sks-keyservers.net is revived. As a workaround, the --key-server option can be set to hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com (what became the default in recent GnuPG releases). Thanks, Maxim