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For your information, what the Cookbook says about %something: The percentage % is typically used for read-only global variables in the build stage. Note that it is merely a convention, like _ in C. Scheme treats % exactly the same as any other letter. https://guix.gnu.org/cookbook/en/guix-cookbook.html#A-Scheme-Crash-= Course I think your change using =E2=80=99%version=E2=80=99 in some let-binding is= not consistent with the rest. Well, I have seen you already pushed this change. Not an issue at all, I can easily live with it. :-) My aim with this message is only to communicate on some practises. Maybe something should be raised on guix-devel. Well, if you and I, both spending some time working on Guix do not have the same understanding for %something, then it means something is poorly documented somewhere. :-) WDYT about adding a paragraph about %something under, https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Coding-Style ? Cheers, simon