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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>
Cc: 41350@debbugs.gnu.org, Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
Subject: [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for the Hurd.
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 10:18:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8q75f2r.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8q8yohx.fsf@gnu.org> (Mathieu Othacehe's message of "Thu, 28 May 2020 19:10:18 +0200")

Hi,

Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org> skribis:

>> But maybe we can just rebase ‘system-qemu-image’ & co. on top of (gnu
>> image)?  What prevents us from doing that, Mathieu?
>>
>> If we can do that, then indeed, there’s no point in insisting on fixing
>> cross-compilation support in (gnu system vm).
>
> I think we could proceed that way:
>
> * Merge Ludo's serie on master.

I think that can wait because on IRC Janneke explained that it doesn’t
fix anything for GNU/Hurd (to my surprise).  So I’ll maybe check again
once the relevant Hurd bits are on master, instead of checking ARM
cross-compilation.

Anyway it’s much less important now that (gnu image) can be used for the
task!

> * Then we could review & merge Jan's wip-hurd-disk.

Do I get it right that we first need
<https://issues.guix.gnu.org/41560>?

The ‘wip-hurd-vm’ branch contains many things:

  1. (gnu system hurd) with the Hurd services etc.

  2. The ‘hurd’ field of <operating-system>.

  3. <menu-entry> with multiboot support.

  4. Hacks to work around vm.scm defects: uses of ‘with-parameters’,
     ‘hurd-target?’, disabling sqlite3, and #~#$ tricks.

I think part of the reason this cycle has been so long is that it’s been
kind of a big bang; big bangs are great because they lead to something
new and exciting, but they’re also intimidating.  :-) For me personally,
looking at all these aspects at once was just too much.

For merging, I think it’d be great to see #1 and #2 as a first step, and
then #3.

I do not want any of #4 :-), because I really think it could lead to
maintenance headaches down the road, which would make the kind of
changes we’re making today practically impossible in the future.

Thoughts?

Ludo’.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-29  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-17 10:01 [bug#41350] [PATCH 0/3] Use native qemu to build vm-image Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-17 10:03 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-17 10:03   ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 2/3] system: vm: Do not register-closures when cross-building Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-17 10:03   ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-18  9:10 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 0/3] Use native qemu to build vm-image Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-19  7:22   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19 10:02     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-20 14:03       ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-20 15:09         ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19  7:23 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19  7:23   ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 2/3] system: vm: Do not register-closures when cross-building to the Hurd Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19  7:23   ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for " Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19  9:14     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-20 21:49       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-23  9:28       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-23 17:45         ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-23 19:07           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24  9:18             ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-27  9:30               ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28  7:00                 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-24 11:19             ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24 12:07               ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-24 14:20                 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24 16:36             ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-20 21:58     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-22 19:24 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-27 22:54   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28  6:36     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-28 12:29       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-28 15:39         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28 17:07           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-28 17:10           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-28 18:19             ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-29  8:18             ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2020-05-29  9:06               ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-30 10:08                 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-30 13:54                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-09-28 20:18                     ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 0/3] Use native qemu to build vm-image Maxim Cournoyer
2022-09-29 14:17                       ` bug#41350: " Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-23  9:30 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-23  9:30   ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 2/3] system: vm: Do not register-closures when cross-building to the Hurd Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-27  8:45     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-27  9:13       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-23  9:30   ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for " Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-27  8:43   ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-27  8:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-27  9:10     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24 18:11 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for the Hurd Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-24 18:40   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-25 15:46     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen

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