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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-to: Nicolas Goaziou X-ACL-Warn: , Nicolas Goaziou via Guix-patches From: Nicolas Goaziou via Guix-patches via Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.67 X-Spam-Score: -6.67 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E85496FA76 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-TUID: PEhU+RUw6FJS Hello, spencernursiapress@nursiapress.com writes: > However, from an end-user perspective, those packages are currently > broken. I think it is completely valid for the Guix project to not > want to take on the burden of managing those dependencies, however > I fail to see the utility in offering individual packages in that > case. The point is that you can use any package set as long as you manage to resolve the dependencies yourself. This is not very difficult actually, and only need to be done once if you always use the same TeX Live packages. > On the other issue you had mentioned the idea of having package collectio= ns. > How do you envision that working in practice? For example, if I wanted to > create a collection for typesetting poetry it seems a little arbitrary wh= ich > packages I would choose to include. I'm talking about TeX Live predefined collections of packages, such as `texlive-collection-pictures' or `texlive-scheme-small', not about user defined collections. For example, `texlive-xkeyval' belongs to `texlive-collection-latexrecommended', which you ought to install. > I am a frequent user of the Tex ecosystem and would like to improve it in > Guix. Currently it seems that the only realistic way to use Tex is to ins= tall > the entirety of texlive, which isn't any different than what I would do on > any > other distro. FWIW, I'm using modular TeX regularly. The actual problem =E2=80=94 yes, th= ere is one =E2=80=94 is not about resolving dependencies, really. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou