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From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, 68677@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Subject: [bug#68677] [PATCH 0/6] Service for "virtual build machines"
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:18:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msstqyx1.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1706027375.git.ludo@gnu.org>

Hi Ludo,

On mar., 23 janv. 2024 at 17:46, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

> Lots of talk about reproducibility and how wonderful Guix is, but
> as soon as you try to build packages from v1.0.0, released less
> than 5 years ago, you hit a “time trap” in Python, in OpenSSL, or
> some other ugly build failure—assuming you managed to fetch source
> code in the first place¹.

Cool!  Workarounds for “time trap” of the current past.

Note that today is the past of the future. ;-) Other said, the same
workarounds will help to detect today thus fix the “time trap” that
would arise in the future.

Without mentioning the bug of 2038 year. :-)



> This patch series defines a long-overdue
> ‘virtual-build-machine-service-type’: a service to run a virtual
> machine available for offloading.  My main goal here is to
> allow users to build stuff at a past date without having to
> change their system clock.  It can also be used to control other
> aspects usually not under control: the CPU model, the Linux kernel.

Yes, controlling CPU model and Linux kernel are worth:

 + CPU model because we already have examples of failures (Python 3.7
   packaged in Guix v1.0.0, some BLAS libraries, etc.);

 + Linux kernel because its stability is one of the strong assumption we
   are making for reproducibility.


Cheers,
simon





  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-25 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-23 16:46 [bug#68677] [PATCH 0/6] Service for "virtual build machines" Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-23 16:48 ` [bug#68677] [PATCH 1/6] services: secret-service: Make the endpoint configurable Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-23 16:48 ` [bug#68677] [PATCH 2/6] vm: Add ‘date’ field to <virtual-machine> Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-23 16:48 ` [bug#68677] [PATCH 3/6] vm: Export <virtual-machine> accessors Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-23 16:48 ` [bug#68677] [PATCH 4/6] vm: Add ‘cpu-count’ field to <virtual-machine> Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-23 16:48 ` [bug#68677] [PATCH 5/6] marionette: Add #:peek? to ‘wait-for-tcp-port?’ Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-23 16:48 ` [bug#68677] [PATCH 6/6] services: Add ‘virtual-build-machine’ service Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-25 14:18 ` Simon Tournier [this message]
2024-01-29 11:25   ` [bug#68677] [PATCH 0/6] Service for "virtual build machines" Ludovic Courtès
2024-02-05 13:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-02-05 15:45 ` Suhail via Guix-patches via
2024-02-07 17:33   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-02-14 15:15   ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-10 22:35 ` bug#68677: " Ludovic Courtès

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