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Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72840 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: indieterminacy Cc: 72840@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 72840-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72840.172712806332671 (code B ref 72840); Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 72840) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2024 21:47:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ssquF-0008Us-1A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:47:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ssquD-0008Ue-Ef for 72840@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:47:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ssqrc-00076R-OU; Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:45:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=xPbk8UzIHxylsG8cuU2QtIPccjOz14XPMTbKy3jdsdw=; b=jg482tSAIcSqs1XWOGDz /QLYprCJd3Xj+b9S7YaEwqGGbQ8Qx44Dd0ZVA08N6idoPYAFQlljsDolS722ogjusLODbDZrgTa6c AaEYqcVEhQKQngFLIunKGOwwiIsc11RLxRcDFVJBQyAzzzaSGPOZUI6VOL3Jvl2LjNOXMKO0wpDcH 3sJHOvMu3UjA+8wxBP4Ol0XA3H+0PbMdrC3nsGRtNXpovpcn4ZoMQTk994hw6Qb6oRfmXjAT0R7Je 6RLHcPdAVOMgw103dKDj6oG4Q5nBGXQpGvwNDAsgyKZPmKFCEv/byUXbuPnpgF9A1G0QQ/t1IO2zO QYn6B6VeBOHACw==; From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= In-Reply-To: <3130f45aaef0b424689f4c91a8dde943@libre.brussels> (indieterminacy@libre.brussels's message of "Fri, 13 Sep 2024 20:57:07 +0000") References: <80f8b603ecd73cb9f46b1ea43797e143f16d2f17.1724785788.git.ludo@gnu.org> <3130f45aaef0b424689f4c91a8dde943@libre.brussels> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 23:44:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87msjyyrhi.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 257248F4C X-TUID: mBY1quFScTFZ Hey there! indieterminacy skribis: > It may be that Im lacking a little experience, > but Id assume that the categories outlined earlier probably require > different timeframes: > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/72840#0-lineno49 > > A year feels a little arbitrary. It=E2=80=99s necessarily arbitrary, but I think we have to set expectations= for users and provide guidelines for contributors; we can=E2=80=99t just say =E2=80=9Ceventually=E2=80=9D. [...] > Am I the only one who feels undermined and demotivated by information > which hits me over the head with WARNINGS? > > Ive had this using elogin-service (cited before): > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/72840#0-lineno155 > > Perhaps additionally there need to be pointers to real VCS repos, > pinpointing a commit providing the migration inside a living > repo/infrastructure? > > Such examples would be constructively showing how the change is > achievable, > and could be empowering through assurance and learning. I agree. I mean, those warnings could be accompanied with a diff showing how to change the source (GCC does that these days in some cases), and/or it could point to examples in the manual. This is something we should consider, but I think it shouldn=E2=80=99t block a first version of the policy. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.