[bug#74676] [core-packages-team 5/5] DRAFT gnu: gcc: Update gcc, gcc-toolchain to 14.

[bug#74676] [core-packages-team 5/5] DRAFT gnu: gcc: Update gcc, gcc-toolchain to 14.

[Janneke Nieuwenhuizen]

Hello,

So, I've just built "hello" for x86_64-linux on "core-packages-team"
(yay!) mostly re-using gcc-14 patches/workarounds that I created for the
Hurd.

We probably want to keep this [switch to gcc-14] patch "bubbling" up on
top of the gcc-14 patches until the gcc-14 transition is done, keeping
every commit buildable.

Just opening this bug by sendding this email to have a placeholder for
discussing this, for the patches see "core-packages-team" (hope that's
OK).

Anyway, I have been using variants of

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
"CFLAGS=-g -O2 -Wno-implicit-function-declaration"
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

while Ludo in hot-patch mode this morning used the already somewhat nicer

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
[-DCMAKE_}C_FLAGS=-Wno-error=implicit-function-declaration"
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

To get build gcc-final to build on the 64bit Hurd I finally created a
gcc.sh wrapper script, after trying all kinds of variations of CFLAGS,
CFLAGS_FOR_BUILD in #:configure-flags, #:make-flags, see also
<https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-14/porting_to.html> where they even suggest
using "-fpermissive".

Before pointing the build farm to core-packages-team and starting the
"real work" we may want to think about how to go forward.  On the one
hand, having CFLAGS patches littered all over the place is not great, on
the other hand, if we were to add compatibility flags to a wrapper for
gcc, or into build systems, we may never get rid of such a "feature".
Thoughts?

Greetings,
Janneke

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[bug#74676] [core-packages-team 5/5] DRAFT gnu: gcc: Update gcc, gcc-toolchain to 14.

[Janneke Nieuwenhuizen]

Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:

Hi,

> So, I've just built "hello" for x86_64-linux on "core-packages-team"
> (yay!) mostly re-using gcc-14 patches/workarounds that I created for the
> Hurd.

[..]

I've all but reconfigured--guix system reconfigure as non-root--my
system, without childhurd, using what is now core-packages-team-old.
That really wasn't so bad, many packages just build with gcc-14.

I have tried to keep the scope of changes as small as possible but
attempted to "fix" packages build failures also by upgrading the
package.  For commencement and base packages I kept the scope narrow:
x86_64-linux, because it has proven to be very hard to predict what's
needed on other architectures.  For other packages, such as "zip", I
just added the mostly harmless -Wno-implicit-function-declaration flag
unguarded.

The *-old branch has a couple of hacks that neutralize impact to
commencement packages, marked "REMOVEME", to avoid world rebuilds as
sometimes some base package builds in commencement, but fails to build
lateron.

The new, cleaned-up, and rebased core-packages-team branch is as such
untested, but "should work".  WDYT?  Can we point the build-farm to this
branch to help out?

Greetings,
Janneke

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[bug#74676] [core-packages-team 5/5] DRAFT gnu: gcc: Update gcc, gcc-toolchain to 14.

[Janneke Nieuwenhuizen]

Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:

Hi,

>> So, I've just built "hello" for x86_64-linux on "core-packages-team"
>> (yay!) mostly re-using gcc-14 patches/workarounds that I created for the
>> Hurd.
>
> [..]
>
> I've all but reconfigured--guix system reconfigure

That was apparently not true, somewhere in the process I somehow built from
another branch.  Anyway, still making good progress.... :-/

On IRC, Efraim reports that i686-linux and aarch64-linux fail to build
hello on current core-packages-team.  That makes me reconsider whether
this strategy

> I kept the scope narrow: x86_64-linux, because it has proven to be
> very hard to predict what's needed on other architectures.

which makes a lot of sense for patches that go to "master" is a good
strategy for core-packages-team.  Possibly it's better to use an
unlimited scope?  Oh well.

Greetings,
Janneke -- building /gnu/store/m5m6qzlxypk1y58yp69501rhq5qmz3r4-llvm-18.1.8.drv...

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[bug#74676] [core-packages-team 5/5] DRAFT gnu: gcc: Update gcc, gcc-toolchain to 14.

[Janneke Nieuwenhuizen]

Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:

Hello,

>>> So, I've just built "hello" for x86_64-linux on "core-packages-team"
>>> (yay!) mostly re-using gcc-14 patches/workarounds that I created for the
>>> Hurd.
>>
>> [..]
>>
>> I've all but reconfigured--guix system reconfigure
>
> That was apparently not true, somewhere in the process I somehow built from
> another branch.  Anyway, still making good progress.... :-/
>
> On IRC, Efraim reports that i686-linux and aarch64-linux fail to build
> hello on current core-packages-team.  That makes me reconsider whether
> this strategy
>
>> I kept the scope narrow: x86_64-linux, because it has proven to be
>> very hard to predict what's needed on other architectures.
>
> which makes a lot of sense for patches that go to "master" is a good
> strategy for core-packages-team.  Possibly it's better to use an
> unlimited scope?  Oh well.

The current core-packages-team uses the gcc and bash fixes for all
platforms and now also supports building all gcc versions from 4.8 and
up, and I've just built hello again for x86_64-linux.

I've built the rust bootstrap several times already, guess I'll just go
for a new round.  But this time we can maybeu "cheat" with packages that
are too difficult to build, and build them with another gcc version than
14?

Greetings,
Janneke

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[bug#74676] [core-packages-team 5/5] DRAFT gnu: gcc: Update gcc, gcc-toolchain to 14.

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> skribis:

> I've built the rust bootstrap several times already, guess I'll just go
> for a new round.  But this time we can maybeu "cheat" with packages that
> are too difficult to build, and build them with another gcc version than
> 14?

I haven’t followed closely (sorry!), but if it’s just a matter of adding
‘gcc-11’ (say) as a native input for a couple of packages, that’s
probably okay.  Except perhaps for C libraries, because then we could
end up with programs depending on two difference versions of libgcc_s.so
& co.

Ludo’.