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And for= instance, I was >> > not aware of such propaganda. :-) >> > >> > Well, I do not have an opinion, but AFAIK, Guix does not work on the t= op >> > of OpenBSD (yet! who knows if someone will not port a BSD kernel with a >> > GNU userland as Debian did some time ago [1] ;-)) >> > >> > For me, it is a niche and for consistency, all the commands using =E2= =80=99sudo=E2=80=99 >> > should also provide the =E2=80=99doas=E2=80=99 way. And I am not conv= inced the burden >> > is worth. Well, I do not have an opinion. >>=20 >> I'm also not convinced it brings much, especially since Guix can't be >> used where 'doas' is likely to be encountered (BSDs). > > FWIW, I use doas on Debian and alpine linux was considering replacing sud= o with doas ;() > > But, yes. This is low priority for me right now so that's fine to close i= t :) > > I may experiment with doas in a guix channel instead. Note that me closing this issue was not against having 'doas' in Guix (you are welcome to contribute a package for it if you like), it was against offering 'doas' equivalents to 'sudo' in our documentation. Thanks, Maxim