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[205.236.230.179]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k5-20020ae9f105000000b00766fbeb3e7csm828506qkg.132.2023.07.06.08.49.26 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 06 Jul 2023 08:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87leg7xner.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg4m1e9z.fsf@gmail.com> <0b7fa4b3ac2f957d633348ac6866027e3f98ec4a.camel@gmail.com> <87ilb1qqud.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:49:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ilb1qqud.fsf_-_@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Mon, 03 Jul 2023 11:36:26 +0200") Message-ID: <87ilaxyr96.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.17 X-Spam-Score: -2.17 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CB279362CB X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-TUID: +vHFqjrjT3Cq Hi Ludo, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi, > > Liliana Marie Prikler skribis: > >> Even with such a hypothetical --exclude-whomever switch added, I'd >> argue that it is wrong to magically install this configuration without >> any user interaction. > > Maybe that=E2=80=99s the main grief: that the new config was suddenly ins= talled > without fellow hackers realizing it (I, for one, wondered initially what > magic made =E2=80=98git send-email=E2=80=99 Cc: all my friends :-)). > > Perhaps one way out is to suggest it in the manual without installing it > automatically? WDYT, Maxim? I still think it has more value by being automatically installed, as that way the pre-push hook that prevents unsigned commit is also configured automatically, and new contributors would be likely to not have it configured (by having missed it from the manual). I see this similar to the .dir-locals.el file that automatically setups (there's a prompt, but its design forces you into accepting it or being repeatedly bothered ad aeternam). If there are concrete issues with it, I think we should a) report them and b) look into fixing them. > (Independently of that, we=E2=80=99ll have to discuss patch review again.= We > believed one problem was that potential reviewers wouldn=E2=80=99t notice > patches in their area. That=E2=80=99s arguably no longer the case, yet t= his > hasn=E2=80=99t had any noticeable effect in terms of review activity. How > should we approach that?) The teams are still nascent, and it's summer time. I think we need to give it some time and encourage more people to join or create new teams and get familiar with the recently introduced/documented branch-based updates :-). --=20 Thanks, Maxim