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Wed, 14 Jul 2021 23:47:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Marusich References: <20210702135818.16084-1-leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at> <8635sval9h.fsf@gmail.com> <68f5b3c4ac813caef41da4062179eb2d07ae2575.camel@student.tugraz.at> <86r1g5i7ai.fsf@gmail.com> <794829194e7b95660ac164920bc62f68e14a0508.camel@student.tugraz.at> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 23:47:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <794829194e7b95660ac164920bc62f68e14a0508.camel@student.tugraz.at> (Leo Prikler's message of "Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:53:02 +0200") Message-ID: <87h7gwysxn.fsf_-_@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; 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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=d6n2Rdfi; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.40 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=d6n2Rdfi; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BEFF45A39 X-Spam-Score: -3.40 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: kMJPA8WVelzI --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leo Prikler writes: >> From my understanding, the =E2=80=9Cimplemented=E2=80=9D plan is describ= ed by Maxim >> here: >>=20 >> > Using this plan as a starting point, I think renpy counts as a non- > variant package relying on some python2-variant. > >> I just want to point that it is less work to transfer a functional >> and >> supported by upstream package than to transfer a package starting to >> have issues. Other said, I think it is easier to find motivation to >> do >> the transfer for this previous case than to do some =E2=80=9Cjanitor=E2= =80=9D work >> later. For what my opinion is worth. :-) > Fair enough, I could open up a merge request to have renpy in Guix Past > "ahead of time", but OTOH I feel like `guix time-machine` offers > similar benefits. If we're going to *mirror* python packages, because > they will soon be broken, I think it would also be a good idea to start > from python2 instead of leaf packages. I feel like keeping it all in Guix proper but vaguely "moving things toward Python 3 wherever possible" is the best approach for now. An approach like the one Maxim suggested in the above link sounds good. Moving Ren'Py to Guix-Past would be fine, I guess, but I have to admit it feels a little strange. After all, Ren'Py is neither stale nor unmaintained. However, some of its dependencies are (like Python 2), and their plan for upgrading to Python 3 sounds like it will take years. =2D-=20 Chris --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJJBAEBCAAzFiEEy/WXVcvn5+/vGD+x3UCaFdgiRp0FAmDv2gQVHGNtbWFydXNp Y2hAZ21haWwuY29tAAoJEN1AmhXYIkadtMwQAI0zEp0oIlaHHD/t2Jl4lFTnjfG1 5eDhP77DI+Jx6S1Eza4H5E2A2dmYnkdEIvCV8Ar+YDb26qUn/OOCZrKZRnxQjIQN YD4XgkCVpXx6S4ABPhVYYxSDjAExCfCIgn45Gs0gI+4bwzOV0meAatejc1dOPZ/P PR8c9Y1rHTwfO//sfU2TuZ/Vo5VcLMWAvX2qx3kgtLLGVCQ8OLM2VUMQmzBPO2vW 5VKXeA8+gp9sNYETFVjbML8mOU6XMhiHos7FvJwtmopSRVpsoiyPI7NtbZNp80SL gZEkdubNcb4sRPX+4qeRyniXyC9CUTglGBqapqDsKIFcLmwCTFqCi2KMzllDrV15 1T5JMrMmciopLpKcoUFAYyqz72SzLUBX6SNNjB6GdIClbEbX2nuXHN37OhQF32jk tA1/L8uCC5ukRHbkDXsb35I2ChNpc2Xv2+5eqV0+kTSngSpt6pvr0IYKilC5zvho ceLfOUXRTG7+qw3oPdXcXKXliVUocMLC2wROHdR6+0XcgEvaYNBHfAfexfyTY32g 6BoWv5jzAc/rlw5mf/fHxQaADhyJ828bu1MYVuL0O/VD9GHBRT0ilb4C5KwWsTBH yHD6jBMBwRsOUt0LX7C4E/h3DJ0pLmb9eYLzfWL9qoXhQWedZfOxFjn6nQIUqM1V H7M3t4myPFxl55qW =f0bT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--