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Then we switched to EMACSLOADPATH, which >> had some advantages, but necessarily has this drawback. >> >> IIUC, is about possibly >> backtracking. Maxim, what=E2=80=99s the status of this one? > > It's abandoned, The MUMI tracker lacks the responses from Leo Prickler, > but they had good arguments maintaining the status quo rather than going > with the extra complexity. It also wouldn't change the issue at hand; > it'd merely prevent conflicts of *resources* files of Emacs packages > (and somewhat integrate with the Emacs native package manager, while > making the autoloading a bit slower). It seems the price to pay is too > high for such a small gain. I'm closing it now. I see, makes sense! > On the other hand, this very problem was the motivation for this patch > series here: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/43627, which would solve the > issue ta hand. You were skeptical of the benefits the last time you > took a look at it; perhaps it's time to take a new look at it :-). Ah! Now I may have to revisit it, indeed. Thanks for explaining! Ludo=E2=80=99.