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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=kd9dUk89; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: 1eYigBxzAYzl Hi, Liliana Marie Prikler skribis: > Am Montag, dem 01.05.2023 um 11:53 -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer: >> > > Like Ludovic, I'm wondering what duplicating the Shepherd >> > > endpoints API in Guix buys us?=C2=A0 [...] >>=20 >> Instead of replicating the Shepherd API in Guix, could we use the >> Shepherd API directly?=C2=A0 It's Scheme, and already depended on by Gui= x, >> so the question arises. > In theory, it'd be possible, albeit with some caveats: It=E2=80=99s not just possible: several services in (gnu services =E2=80=A6= ) and (gnu home services =E2=80=A6) use endpoints for systemd or inetd-style startup. > 1. Shepherd doesn't (didn't) have a full guix-style records API, which > might cause discrepancies in otherwise normal-looking Scheme code. I=E2=80=99m not convinced. :-) > 2. It'd probably make shepherd a compile-time dependency, which is > avoided in other places in the code, i.e. (gnu build shepherd) (gnu build shepherd) is 75% deprecated; the introduction of endpoints in the Shepherd didn=E2=80=99t have any effect on it. > 3. Shepherd records are (to my knowledge) not print-readable, so we'd > have to move them through G-Expressions through some of our own code > anyway; how strongly that would replicate the API is up to > debate/speculation. When would you want to print those records? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.