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[2a01:cb08:829f:f800:6d2f:3274:3285:2397]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-387824a3fa7sm4863810f8f.24.2024.12.12.11.47.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:47:25 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Tournier In-Reply-To: <875xno7oqg.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <09ff9f31af0575ba5223bf713f166101e79b8d99.1733614983.git.noelopez@free.fr> <875xno7oqg.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:47:17 +0100 Message-ID: <87ed2cn0oq.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.49 X-Spam-Score: -2.49 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B9A0AA52 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: Jdt82MsiLa89 Hi all, Thanks No=C3=A9! I added you as co-supporter; someone definitively required. ;-) Thanks Steve for reaching me some weeks end ago. Well, based on No=C3=A9=E2=80=99s v2, I polished some comments and sent v3;= based on what my follow up started weeks (months?) ago. On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 at 19:14, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > These are changes from the past that may long be forgotten by the time > we read them. Perhaps we can abstract it a bit, like: > > - changing the record type and/or its interfaces; > - adding or removing a =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 sub-command; > - changing the channel mechanism; > - changing project policy such as teams, decision-making, the > deprecation policy or this very document; > - changing the contributor workflow and related infrastructure > (mailing lists, source code repository and forge, continuous > integration, etc.) > > This list seems redundant with and similar to that under =E2=80=9CWhen To= Follow > This Process=E2=80=9D; maybe just keep it in one place, under =E2=80=9CWh= en To Follow=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D? I think it helps to understand. Concrete examples always help, IMHO. Therefore, I propose what your wording. Then, past examples where this RFC process would have been helpful, I guess. >> + 1. Clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git > > I would suggest a separate repo. Bah since we are putting all there=E2=80=A6 When you see etc/ ;-) >> +** Decision making: consensus > > =E2=80=A6 and drop this. I think it makes more sense to have the Decision Making as RFC and then the manual refers to it, and not the converse. ;-) Therefore, I would keep the section here. And once we are done, letting the manual as-is, I would link to RFC. What defines the Decision Making *is* RFC and not the manual. ;-) > Maybe we should define the role of =E2=80=9CRFC editors=E2=80=9D (or =E2= =80=9CRFC team=E2=80=9D?), which > would be the people responsible for doing those changes. I=E2=80=99ve drop this =E2=80=9CRFC teams=E2=80=9C or =E2=80=9CRFC editors= =E2=80=9D because in my initial idea, this is the aim of =E2=80=9Cco-supporter(s)=E2=80=9D. See the relevant sec= tion; does it need to be improved? >> +** Backward Compatibility >> + >> +None. >> + >> +** Forward compatibility > > I=E2=80=99m not sure what=E2=80=99s expected in these sections. Maybe = =E2=80=9CCompatibility > Considerations=E2=80=9D would be more appropriate? Yes, maybe =E2=80=9CCompatibility Consideration=E2=80=9D. It needs to be i= n agreement with the template. >> +* Unresolved questions > > I think these two sections in the context of this foundational document > look a bit ridiculous. :-) But maybe that=E2=80=99s okay? I think that the first RFC must respects what it asks to other RFC. ;-) And if the consensus is not reached, we need a place to summarize the unresolved discussion, no? Again, thanks No=C3=A9 and Steve for taking care of that! Cheers, simon