Hi Pierre,

Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> writes:

> * doc/guix.texi (Database Services): Add example of shell commands to use psql
> as  system user.  Also add troubleshooting tip when service fails to start
> because of incompatible cluster.
> ---
>  doc/guix.texi | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
> index 15e077a41c..1326be69e5 100644
> --- a/doc/guix.texi
> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
> @@ -16787,6 +16787,24 @@ The PostgreSQL daemon loads its runtime configuration from @var{config-file},
>  creates a database cluster with @var{locale} as the default
>  locale, stored in @var{data-directory}.  It then listens on @var{port}.
>  
> +If the services fails to start, it may be due to an incompatible
> +cluster already present in @var{data-directory}.  Adjust it (or, if you
> +don't need the cluster anymore, delete @var{data-directory}), then
> +restart the service.

OK, deleting data-directory probably will work for every issue,
e.g. data corruption for files inside :-).


Every ‘guix system reconfigure’ I see a message about
“/var/lib/postgresql/ already exists, skipping creating” if I remember
correctly.  Do you see this when you use a cluster?  

I don't have a strong opinion for this, but the message is enough, isn't
it?  Maybe we could say in the documentation to remove data directory in
any case when you don't need previous data?

> +Peer authentication is used by default and the @code{postgres} user
> +account has no shell, which prevents the direct execution of @code{psql}
> +commands as this user.  To use @code{psql}, you can temporarily log in
> +as @code{postgres} using a shell, create a PostgreSQL superuser with the
> +same name as one of the system users and then create the associated
> +database.
> +
> +@example
> +sudo su postgres -s /bin/sh
> +createuser --interface
> +createdb $MY_USER_LOGIN      # Replace appropriately.
> +@end example

I tried ‘sudo su postgres -s /bin/sh’, then:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
sh-5.0$ createuser --interface
sh: createuser: command not found
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

First of all we could use just ‘sudo’ to get a shell:

    sudo -u postgres -s /bin/sh


‘createuser’ and ‘createdb’ are in ‘/gnu/store/…-postgresql-10.13/bin’,
which is missing in my ‘postgres’ user's profile.

To fix this we could make ‘postgres’ available by default as in
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/commit/?id=db65d7447c3adc46e2b24abfc07ae10c6c537df4

WDYT?


Regards,
Oleg.