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[66.158.159.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w12-20020a05620a444c00b006f9ddaaf01esm11755688qkp.102.2023.01.12.13.54.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Jan 2023 13:54:41 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87358rxgjk.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <325c0ef4-63ad-b45d-96ae-2cf248c37548@disroot.org> <871qoavyn2.fsf@gmail.com> <9336884519247fe7c9a9cf0d532eb8a79b954a7f.camel@gmail.com> <87358il4l0.fsf@gmail.com> <86sfgg1z6i.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1q8mcgq.fsf@xelera.eu> <4ad22b3194af69f3b8db5e471a1f4ced2118590f.camel@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 16:54:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4ad22b3194af69f3b8db5e471a1f4ced2118590f.camel@gmail.com> (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:29:09 +0100") Message-ID: <87bkn3h10f.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1673560530; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fwTjdhp3WVU11NFmlR+3qw1eCq+WUV/FmKaU15YYO0spzeNEflKrc4PvFfB4EWgrkz2e77 cD3iB8CEvs78u5Ssr1xGnazLtv0woTp8B8KABCXy5ntPHs0srZUuJJ4mnWDvxeXb+8sdRL nlwGJoI6HBN9VuCR86w3z0cBXI06N33JArHD7FGTGvKfVvKtYa2vSOp03cUbDJLhJsFnpD H5UstE0durUTwXACrhEH4DgbTF/SpyVGf0TjaVF5/AM2+hgK7b7DrgvXLsQtbjKooMRGoT Vc1a9Fwf74u3pu5WKrQw66N6D5qkcynH5q2UqYd9pN3gaozP2cjwP8Mq9Z5Mjw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=owk9PS2O; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1673560530; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:resent-cc:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references: list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post: dkim-signature; bh=F3AbvffNivtjcukH+GBDfYmYxetmNA7/FrvEgzeJQio=; b=VGzL+2Rv+wCAZH9TC59ElRl/KkNCElgzFkUgVhSW8MEsnHTxmHEZSpZWqNXTwMotK2MFG2 RcVVZdm4AarBhMIn96l1Q1eWCV7lsOnzG96i/iRdksUBNmVOFCaABsDhhDtlK9Jxoa6cfp qX2/i+dKOFogifVY8KXgRYPLC6v+8Rr91yNmd8DJuo/2bt66GiBSWqCUoFRkE4nPOSIZEX ofVt/GdH+UUxNtA1bvObhctsHteLofFO2Rch7L/T+WuJz5LYtuCGmFFu8SuxembRbuvnM7 tNdCA1pMkQtB7egw1PCrC9zRVp4XMfFcOAGDJjk3KWvIPUmxbcGCt1TzUWHiZw== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.00 X-Spam-Score: 1.00 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: EF0D137566 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=owk9PS2O; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) X-TUID: KWH4rBCpuj8D Hi Liliana, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: [...] > Now, I hope I'm not exaggerating when I say that most computer users > use libarchive-based (un)archiving tools already. [3] > Having observed this, I see little meaning in having a frontend, which > per its name promises to open archives that their existing tooling > can't handle, only to then reveal that it was the existing tooling all > along. If it didn't have the name that suggested it was able to do > that, no one would expect it to, and upon encountering an archive that > libarchive can't handle, they could go "well, fuck those rar guys, I > have better things to do", or they could try and figure out what's > wrong and contribute a fix (not that a fix is easily contributed given > the nature of this bug, but somewhere along their journey they'd notice > that rar is proprietary garbage and not fault libarchive too hard for > not handling it). Because unrar-free does have a name that suggests > it's able to unrar those things, however, they will inevitably feel > wronged no matter what and rather think "well, fuck unrar-free, I want > unrar-nonfree". Strong language is not welcome here. Please make an effort to keep it clean :-). -- Thanks, Maxim