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From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
Cc: 70169@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 04/12] maint: Help help2man generate reproducible man-pages.
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2024 16:06:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bk6li7wy.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sezxmg6y.fsf@pelzflorian.de> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Sun, 07 Apr 2024 15:54:13 +0200")

pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) writes:

Hello Florian,

> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> writes:
>> diff --git a/doc/local.mk b/doc/local.mk
>> +SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH = $(shell git show HEAD --format=%ct --no-patch 2>/dev/null || echo 0)
>> +export SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH
>
> Do I interpret correctly that “echo 0” is a fallback timestamp?

Yes.

> Looking at the now gone instructions from “git show
> 83c60bb0622440afe98930820186ddfa1e6e8b2f”, at that time, a timestamp of
> 1 was used for the tarball; I do not remember why.  In
> guix/scripts/pack.scm, 1 is used for squashfs and docker images.

That's probably because of build dependencies.

> Is 1 a better timestamp than 0?

For files, using 1 is preferrable if it's not a source file.  We use 1
for .go files, and 0 for .scm files, iirc.  SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH is (only)
used for the date in the document.  Without git, 0 is as good a guess
for a reproducible date for use in a document as any, I think.

Greetings,
Janneke

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-07 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 19:08 [bug#70169] [PATCH 0/7] Reproducible `make dist' tarball in defiance of Autotools and Gettext Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 19:11 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 1/7] maint: Cater for running `make dist' from a worktree Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 19:11 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 2/7] maint: Use reproducible timestamps and name for tarball Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 20:45   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-03 20:49     ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 19:11 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 3/7] maint: Generate 'doc/version.texi' reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 19:11 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 4/7] maint: Help help2man generate reproducible man-pages Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 19:11 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 5/7] maint: Generate 'doc/version-LANG.texi' reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 20:25   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-03 20:33     ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08  9:26       ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-03 20:39   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-03 20:43     ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 19:11 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 6/7] maint: Use reproducible Git timestamp for POT-Creation-Date Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 20:26   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-03 20:36     ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-04  5:12     ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 19:11 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 7/7] maint: Ensure generated file reproducibility for dist Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 20:57 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH 0/7] Reproducible `make dist' tarball in defiance of Autotools and Gettext Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-03 21:04   ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-03 21:28     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-06 21:16       ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 00/12] " Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 01/12] maint: Cater for running `make dist' from a worktree Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 02/12] maint: Use reproducible timestamps and name for tarball Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 03/12] maint: Generate 'doc/version.texi' reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 04/12] maint: Help help2man generate reproducible man-pages Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-07 13:54     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-07 14:06       ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen [this message]
2024-04-07 15:20         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-08  9:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-08  9:40         ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 05/12] maint: Generate AUTHORS and ChangeLog reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 06/12] maint: Generate 'doc/version-LANG.texi' reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:17   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 07/12] maint: Use xgettext.scm wrapper to create .PO files reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:18   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 08/12] maint: Use reproducible Git timestamp for POT-Creation-Date Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:18   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 09/12] maint: Remove %%CreationDate from generated EPS files Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08  9:41     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-08 17:12       ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:18   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 10/12] maint: Avoid PNG and PDF generation to fail silently Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:18   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 11/12] maint: Reset CreationDate metadata on generated PDFs Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-07 17:16     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-07 17:38       ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-07 18:09         ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-06 21:18   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 12/12] maint: Ensure generated file reproducibility for dist Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-07  8:57   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v2 13/12] doc: Use "dejavu sans" instead of "Helvetica" or "sans" in dot images Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 12:15     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-08 17:26       ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46 ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 00/13] Reproducible `make dist' tarball in defiance of Autotools and Gettext Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 01/13] doc: Use "dejavu sans" instead of "Helvetica" or "sans" in dot images Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 02/13] maint: Cater for running `make dist' from a worktree Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 03/13] maint: Use reproducible timestamps and name for tarball Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 04/13] maint: Generate 'doc/version.texi' reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 05/13] maint: Help help2man generate reproducible man-pages Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 06/13] maint: Generate AUTHORS and ChangeLog reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 07/13] maint: Generate 'doc/version-LANG.texi' reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 08/13] maint: Use xgettext.scm wrapper to create .PO files reproducibly Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 09/13] maint: Use reproducible Git timestamp for POT-Creation-Date Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 10/13] maint: Avoid EPS generation to fail silently, ensure reproducibility Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 11/13] maint: Avoid PNG and PDF generation to fail silently Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 12/13] maint: Reset CreationDate metadata on generated PDFs Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-08 18:46   ` [bug#70169] [PATCH v3 13/13] maint: Ensure generated file reproducibility for dist Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-10 16:35     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-10 17:25       ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2024-04-11 11:32         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-14  9:24           ` bug#70169: " Janneke Nieuwenhuizen

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