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Resent-From: Timothy Sample Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 17:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39655 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Cc: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , 39655@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 39655-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39655.15898244229663 (code B ref 39655); Mon, 18 May 2020 17:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 39655) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2020 17:53:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48192 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jajxN-0002Vn-QC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 13:53:42 -0400 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:36807) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jajxL-0002Vb-Nt for 39655@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 13:53:40 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883125C00BF; Mon, 18 May 2020 13:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 18 May 2020 13:53:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=c87EydK5xtckjIPeYkqSZiALWhDm5KWCWcgMzMXgA 4k=; b=bF/nRsrnoFvOMK5kKw+cpDlqHC7eI0uXxJN6ziNiYmxyDo8KDHuuB69JK GGcH9RCjY4mQQNr9BW9iJk8KE5TrW5pzou3qjz2LzrzAiTyBJMRFxEH4R3Q4jWY8 xAq1JcyGcltecT1hpBtBzk79MAd48d+p+aMRwnyJqfGvV58hVn9t9Perx1opRpa0 HbducUHF4cxkxFAestv5FlLmQa+t5Ium5hc1s6AvX/WkwRGVBFZXtIpfqFk/aoht +5EONniBQI/SZ53Gu/gF09nGX7PSNMx76/s/NYvykoCJ2y07g/7ugI6Y24sTD3ac IPjBWd7pH8Q4f6MFWWRRPWgs45Jjg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedruddthedguddujecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefhvffufhffjgfkfgggtgfgsehtqhertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpefvihhm ohhthhihucfurghmphhlvgcuoehsrghmphhlvghtsehnghihrhhordgtohhmqeenucggtf frrghtthgvrhhnpeeiudeuhfeggeelleevheegudfguefhieekffdtveeilefglefhvddt gfeiheetgfenucfkphepjeegrdduudeirddukeeirdeggeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiii gvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehsrghmphhlvghtsehnghihrhhordgt ohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: from mrblack (74-116-186-44.qc.dsl.ebox.net [74.116.186.44]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B4C25328005D; Mon, 18 May 2020 13:53:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Sample References: <20200218124411.20400-1-janneke@gnu.org> <87eeuqmuwb.fsf@gnu.org> <87367yhgva.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 13:53:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87367yhgva.fsf@gnu.org> (Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Sun, 17 May 2020 14:43:05 +0200") Message-ID: <878shpku3n.fsf@ngyro.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=bF/nRsrn; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-TUID: saC9DLend0B5 Hi janneke, Overall it is very good! I only have a one small suggestion. Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > [...] > >>> +As Gash and Gash Utils mature, and GNU packages become more > > @Timothy: this is possibly touching very lightly on what Gash has > brought us; do you want to share some more here? Honestly I think this says enough for now. I have most of the code in place so that Gash can build nearly anything. (In particular, Awk is nearly complete with respect to POSIX.) It will take a while to clean it up, but we can refresh this part when the new code lands. :) > [...] > > +The only significant binary bootstrap seeds that remain@footnote{ > +Ignoring the 68KB @code{mescc-tools}; that will be removed later, > +together with @code{mes}.} are a Scheme intepreter and a Scheme > +compiler: GNU Mes and GNU Guile. Is it too confusing to mention the Bash, Tar, and XZ binaries used to get Guile up and running? IIRC, there are a few packages whose sources are still patched via =E2=80=9Cbootstrap-origin=E2=80=9D, too. I understan= d that those binaries are really insignificant, but maybe someone new to this whole thing would be surprised to discover =E2=80=9Csecret=E2=80=9D bootstrap bin= aries. Perhaps their role in unpacking Guile could be put in the footnote with messcc-tools. WDYT? -- Tim