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Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 10:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64958 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Liliana Marie Prikler Cc: 64958@debbugs.gnu.org, Wojtek Kosior , Cayetano Santos , Andrew Tropin Received: via spool by 64958-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64958.16908841739096 (code B ref 64958); Tue, 01 Aug 2023 10:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 64958) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2023 10:02:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47197 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qQmDN-0002Mc-1d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 06:02:53 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:34539) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qQmDL-0002ML-HP for 64958@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2023 06:02:52 -0400 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEB87C0003; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 10:02:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <19985392d433fe1719f45532f38573a50544dce5.1690732378.git.csantosb@inventati.org> <20230730225155.3b2510c5.koszko@koszko.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 12:02:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2023 22:03:56 +0200") Message-ID: <878ravyta5.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-GND-Sasl: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.75 X-Spam-Score: -4.75 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 93F1041D4D X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-TUID: azQhLhSR2MWi Hello, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Sonntag, dem 30.07.2023 um 22:51 +0200 schrieb Wojtek Kosior: >> Hi! >> >> > * gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.scm (emacs-chatgpt-shell): New variable. >> >> Doesn't this package effectively recommend a nonfree >> service-as-a-software-substitute? It'd be better to keep users away >> from such "services". Also, sorry to say, I'm pretty sure this is >> against the Free Software Distribution Guidelines > IANAL, but as far as I understand, having clients for various > "services" out there, even if those services are not distributed as > free software, is permissible. I also think so. In particular, this is not a SaaSS because there is no software to substitute in the first place. > IMHO, we would need a clear guideline for all of them rather than > singling out ChatGPT even if using it is harmful for everyone > involved. > > Nicolas, Andrew, WDYT? I think a clear rule is important, and my opinion is that it should be permissive. These clients are useful pieces of software, if only because they constitute an opportunity to learn code. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou