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Resent-From: Andrew Tropin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64958 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Liliana Marie Prikler , Wojtek Kosior Cc: 64958@debbugs.gnu.org, Cayetano Santos , Nicolas Goaziou Received: via spool by 64958-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64958.16915725995338 (code B ref 64958); Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 64958) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2023 09:16:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTfJ0-0001O2-RQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2023 05:16:39 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:58221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTfIy-0001Nl-9t for 64958@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2023 05:16:37 -0400 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1B97C000A; Wed, 9 Aug 2023 09:16:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trop.in; s=gm1; t=1691572590; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=w00jHqGmSr+F5CBg/gUwX5Droj6pr9G3yOWHYbW0DgU=; b=XxVx90egv2Zt6qaj9AITTLjqHEdfCz0KGngwf6YJOoqP9rUtgF9tEtqkX9E8U6LFUvVVKK bi3E8+diXWguSsh1zx32sJtO0pSPqd/V9y/xNSq+qPKuUAsyxjDeQfqgT5PKSBZIRxxROB CzYxNtGz67N3J5THLNlTstysLPucfxIivyoecxTQgJY452EIxxotsE4nE9XEMhGSoWFW+Z iEEk4Fp+svPu6XAlH4bMDIxTos/eYOlFzVH0ZVPhTGvyDgNtXFB7doW/fXdbfXB86buS7n 73fkOIwq1BGsyc5NVdwrCvdHTmmc4h8Rwjobf6oNtTZZpCv4auSRsAj8Sz7sVw== From: Andrew Tropin In-Reply-To: References: <19985392d433fe1719f45532f38573a50544dce5.1690732378.git.csantosb@inventati.org> <20230730225155.3b2510c5.koszko@koszko.org> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2023 13:16:24 +0400 Message-ID: <878raky3rr.fsf@trop.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-GND-Sasl: andrew@trop.in X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 750EA5275C X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.37 X-Spam-Score: -5.37 X-TUID: nNHoClf5FX2v --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2023-07-31 22:03, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Sonntag, dem 30.07.2023 um 22:51 +0200 schrieb Wojtek Kosior: >> Hi! >>=20 >> > * gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.scm (emacs-chatgpt-shell): New variable. >>=20 >> Doesn't this package effectively recommend a nonfree >> service-as-a-software-substitute? It'd be better to keep users away >> from such "services". Also, sorry to say, I'm pretty sure this is >> against the Free Software Distribution Guidelines > IANAL, but as far as I understand, having clients for various > "services" out there, even if those services are not distributed as > free software, is permissible. See some social networking applications > or messengers. IMHO, we would need a clear guideline for all of them > rather than singling out ChatGPT even if using it is harmful for > everyone involved. > > Nicolas, Andrew, WDYT? While I'm not a big fun of popularization of proprietary/non-ethical services, the clients for those services are often free software and I don't see a good reason to include some of them and not to include others. Also, such software often can be used with different more ethical backends with compatible API or as an implementation example or other source of inspiration and hackery. =2D-=20 Best regards, Andrew Tropin --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEKEGaxlA4dEDH6S/6IgjSCVjB3rAFAmTTWWgACgkQIgjSCVjB 3rBL9A//ZnDj+9WCJQHzw2ud0+uMbrJSlf3Y24d2kSarKp2j/ynbVmkXc3tPDV3y UwzFB+boggrMB+IRHJc7kstnVDrIoQkf+BL04VBWrFPLeF6D0r/O8OWSDDJzr8Zs Suu215anyHP9x42dixDBktxCAsrRNSMsjJt2ZrU/qX0KXtApiM7mG/8Oe/6YNqTj C5NtsQnd88Afp4gSExLmn9SbTycvisjWgsgwWkJE5CxnULONmoX3ZlaWl8I4hdRA wVoY0PRC/A+Sczb9wlFA/jl7gaC9CpVQdqncKIKELc+DBuR/t6yr3e0tKBJtbvcb r/0IrKWddBsDtaxDYlCfFelOYFfSM0hnSAXwABiqB7YuLcehHHrWmcRDpqoD/Lgk na3t7l88KPeu9XVZzhxe+hWEemhvBGJmNVhwCmZAXjIXG6CY5GgJ6PY9LRbMmnp3 KCa5iCsTY/c5Pj5gEI2BXHUE2VyGwRz2QqFox9ve/nEkO6NLWwhtPIgEIt13D5Lp HpL8I3usq9F1rQhr6ygyVOMfw8taq//L4BAmW6SgbudES9Vidxu14/RE8DsARzFF TMiSVEaR4rjvdXSnovjBDLAUASbrXoZyc3S9IXy/1sXFR0keDmuJfVXQmJcqP949 289drjIh0NqouPreHNWh0sjdGH4cLZnsKgs6RvmDVUXNbN93JSs= =am31 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--