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dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2D515262B6 X-Spam-Score: -3.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: rwO8/uXcvfFy Hi, Pierre-Henry Fr=C3=B6hring skribis: > I try to make Guix our default package manager. It's really wonderful > so far. To that end, I need TLDRs so that less experienced > developpers can get going /fast/. Deeper understanding will come in > time. > > I also need to convince that Guix is /easy/ to third parties. I need > to /show/ that /installing/, /configuring/ and /using/ Guix is fast > and efficient. I found out that TLDRs are great tools for that. > > I need to have small TLDRs so that when things go wrong, it's easy to > know where and fix either the TLDR or the manual steps. Also, > sometimes, things go wrong and are not documented. /E.g./ setting > ~LC_ALL=3DC.UTF-8~ will make Guix complain even after installing ~guix > install glibc-utf8-locales~. I can factor this knowledge inside these > TLDR fast. No argument here, I very much understand why as a user or potential contributor one would want to-the-point documentation as a first step. I also want to be able to understand what I=E2=80=99m doing though=E2=80=94= maybe not at first, but soon enough. That=E2=80=99s why I don=E2=80=99t feel comfortabl= e giving a raw list of commands without explanations. But maybe we can have both, with cross references. Thoughts? Ludo=E2=80=99.