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[109.252.135.33]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r1-20020a2e8e21000000b002462940ead1sm3096470ljk.42.2022.03.13.01.52.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 13 Mar 2022 01:52:07 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Tropin In-Reply-To: <878ruld86f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20220123111159.27020-1-ludo@gnu.org> <87sft8tah0.fsf@trop.in> <87zgnfbtao.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8xzyddf.fsf@trop.in> <87v8xz54n9.fsf@gnu.org> <874k5hzlvo.fsf@trop.in> <878ruld86f.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:52:06 +0300 Message-ID: <877d8y6uyh.fsf@trop.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-=" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1647165377; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:resent-cc:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references: list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post: dkim-signature; bh=5SIBwQWYxEDUFb7nNPIgIj/eIQ8TxNrgP5FWCO82rWE=; b=lv3ck4urd8HAFRKFqA1qmZxrdbAJxC7be4YbgQ9FYftOtb2jQsvMLvoM7wr7L2Ms/WC6uE clHrXbUyqnY6ahFka+mICoXEIRsN2l8D2Oxg6x6fDBdlcvkRC9ZrOIlWP0v9iZwiwPe8l+ qLWEAe5XxnRx6FfDbVY8Gy4sRcF5kc6uaTmMmkslQzjeynVR7aaSQmQTFcEawUJnqAuLJW d7tGU9kcUVIL2zsWR2IGTX3oyajfZGG5fo4ku+/P7T5oR+uVx61PoHIohK/4GccIDuS3+d yFrXllCofHMikkRjO/z7AbdNL3zPVuaeuCGQQY6Mg9UPj/6tzZheGPKD/oVSlg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1647165377; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=QO3GXCk1qHQKWlT0SWa8S+pG6au6mJTjMwnHIhwmgF1X4kvpaCOuuEpOuIcnR/Go6NX61S YK4e1mY6Aie6vmOH3sJ7LpL/B7kcVmEQIhFrHyuF81gEMSzA+Ru14At1EQ2or3J93sw/wR p44ouwGYMlF2u9OPJnRp1/GslnxaXTlhDBEJ+45DaEwTR+4CRZ9A1vhzGqG7wgGVeKW7nu q3mKvoSvxlWC244FiuVxCbe72ZhmmlcAYYt3C2LkTHCY4F2Xb+2T+8EoLTB5k4U95W8LSV JDkUKsuD/8XMzYKL3TaqQSstrGCuT2nM0Pp9NCcyfrWVn1l+HvdUkZZEoOBurA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=trop-in.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=zq+eaySp; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.97 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=trop-in.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=zq+eaySp; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 581C233A20 X-Spam-Score: -1.97 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: B8kCy25pV0g9 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2022-02-08 10:22, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > I hadn=E2=80=99t noticed this message of yours earlier=E2=80=A6 > > Andrew Tropin skribis: > >> I think I'll move (gnu home-services ...) I personally use and >> incompatible with system services approach to (rde home services) not to >> confuse people and will maintain them myself. But I'm ok if someone >> would like to rewrite to the usual style and upstream them, I will help >> with the review. > > Alright noted. I would obviously prefer if you would instead contribute > those services to Guix Home proper=E2=80=94that was the whole point of ge= tting > it merge in Guix in the first place, right? Originally, I planned to upstream them, but the implementation of rde home services is quite different from guix system services, that means it would be necessary to almost completely rewrite them to match the style of system services and move them to Guix proper. In addition to updating rde parts depending on those services it's a humongous amount of work. I can't do it right now for various reasons, so I will just move them from (gnu home-services) to prevent future compatibilty problems and the overall amount the usage by people who are looking for guix home services. In the meantime people looking for some missing home services can take an inspiration from rde home service and send patches to guix-patches with proper implementation, I can help with code review and provide some insights, suggestions and knowledge about possible pitfalls. Maybe in the future rde will be able to migrate to guix home services. > I feel that perhaps, contrary to what I thought, we hadn=E2=80=99t reache= d a > shared understanding of what it means to maintain things collectively > withing Guix. It=E2=80=99s a bit of a sad situation, but I=E2=80=99m sur= e there=E2=80=99ll > still be good things happening in Guix Home, and in rde. I try to upstream everything I can, to make everyone in Guix community be able benefit from it and also to make a code benefit from collective maintenance in Guix repo. BTW, sending you a lot of kudos for improving guix home and symlink-manager code. Resending this email to keep public record of it. 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