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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com>
Cc: 38390@debbugs.gnu.org, Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
Subject: [bug#38390] [bug #38390] Building bootstrap Gash and Gash-Utils
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 09:58:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zgltnp1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lfpj7etb.fsf@ngyro.com> (Timothy Sample's message of "Mon, 03 Feb 2020 12:37:04 -0500")

Hello Timothy!

Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com> skribis:

> We’re nearing a release for Gash-Utils, and while working on it I made
> some changes to how the bootstrap Gash and Gash-Utils are built (on the
> wip-bootstrap branch.)  Jan suggested that we get your opinion on the
> changes, as you are behind the current '%bootstrap-guile+guild'
> approach.

Thanks for reaching out to me!

> The very short story is that I found that the Scheme GZip code is being
> maintained and works out-of-the-box on Guile 2.0.9 [1].  This made me
> unsure about copying the code into Gash-Utils when maybe we could just
> use it as a dependency.  Then, I realized that the library included a
> simple Tar reader, and wondered how simple a program could be that could
> handle 'tar xvf gash.tar.gz'.  It turns out pretty simple!  So I put the
> program and all its dependencies in an a-list with a little loop that
> writes them to disk, and made a self-extracting Scheme script that can
> unpack compressed tarballs [2].

Woow, that is very nice!  So all of a sudden there’s an extra bunch of
binary seeds we can get rid of, woohoo!  I didn’t expect that even bzip2
and xz would be implemented.

> [2] https://git.ngyro.com/bootar/

Clean, short, and elegant; brilliant!

> The other thing is that I always intended for Gash and Gash-Utils to be
> built with a loop calling “compile-file”.  This avoids the need for
> “guild” which in turn avoids “bash” (AIUI).
>
> These patches update Gash-Utils, replace the binary “tar” with my
> self-extracting Scheme implementation, and replace “guild” with
> “compile-file”.  I think this simplifies the bootstrap processes, and I
> really like getting rid of the references to “tar”, “bash”, and “xz”
> (even though they are needed for the bootstrap Guile, it feels nice to
> quarantine them there).
>
> WDYT?

I think it’s perfect.

One comment that can be addressed later:

> From 2cec50928a4ff67df363322d2adfb6aaa5aedc83 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com>
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 10:51:07 -0500
> Subject: [PATCH 2/3] Simplify bootstrap Gash and Gash-Utils.
>
> This change does three things.  First Gash-Utils is updated to
> 0.1.0-preview.  Then, the bootstrap Gash and Gash-Utils packages are
> arranged to be built without using 'guild'.  Finally, instead of
> using a binary 'tar' via 'bootstrap-executable' to extract Gash and
> Gash-Utils, a self-extracting Scheme implementation of 'tar' and
> 'gzip' is used instead.

[...]

> +(define (make-bootstrap-phases version scripts modules)
> +  "Create a form that modifies the standard GNU build phases so that
> +they build simple Guile programs using only the bootstrap Guile.  The
> +'.in' files in the directory MODULES are configured with VERSION, the
> +'.in' files in the directory SCRIPTS are configured with the bootstrap
> +Guile and its module and object directories, and the Scheme files in the
> +directory MODULES are compiled and installed."
> +  `(modify-phases %standard-phases
> +     (replace 'configure

Should this be factorized out in a (guix build gnu-bootstrap) module or
similar?  That would keep build-side code separate and would avoid
making ‘commencement.scm’ bigger.

I guess the only thing that remains to be done is changing the temporary
URLs to the self-extracting script & co., right?

Thanks a lot!

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-05  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-26 16:38 [bug#38390] [core-updates] Scheme-only bootstrap: merge wip-bootstrap Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-01 14:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-01 16:25   ` Timothy Sample
2019-12-01 16:55     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-01 17:14     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-01 17:21   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-06  6:53     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-07 22:31       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-11 18:25       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-15 21:33         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-15 22:39           ` Timothy Sample
2019-12-15 22:45             ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-16  6:34             ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-16 19:28           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-18 22:55             ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-12-19 11:08               ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-03 17:37 ` [bug#38390] [bug #38390] Building bootstrap Gash and Gash-Utils Timothy Sample
2020-02-05  8:58   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2020-02-05 14:32     ` Timothy Sample
2020-02-05 21:33       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-06 22:58         ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-02-07 11:00           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-08 17:33             ` Timothy Sample
2020-02-08 22:32               ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-02-10  2:23                 ` Timothy Sample
2020-02-11 13:56               ` Ludovic Courtès

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