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In the hypothetical case that a keyword mattered, >> it would be a nasty surprise to the package author. They would have to >> (a) discover the problem and (b) manually do the keyword substitution in >> Scheme (or work around it). That=E2=80=99s an application of the non-free lunch theorem, no? :-) > My intuition is that the worst =E2=80=9Cproblem=E2=80=9D we might have is= =E2=80=98--version=E2=80=99 > showing unexpanded keywords. Somehow, I would prefer to pay the surprise by package author using Subversion rather than not being fully reproducible over the time. Cheers, simon