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Resent-From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:53:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70280 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 70280@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 70280-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70280.1713221524884 (code B ref 70280); Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:53:03 +0000 Received: (at 70280) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2024 22:52:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rwVBB-0000Dk-Py for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:52:03 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.162]:41021) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rwVB8-0000D0-Kz for 70280@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:52:00 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VJMqP1Cv1z3vmM; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:51:45 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1713221505; bh=WQBtPxfoKbfZD8F95RPmE3f3WDbGRvhXRKR2c6d6qv8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=LmY7ph5YnQsj0RyrrB2qeYKqWHEdcyNnV1feJHJwcerkSpgl3kXV48uTR08DwO+Q7 VbIAJ/v1hvRy40dwv41TPlU7yxfijAob5DhR5LjqpSby4VIxLndKO17AuqQmeucru9 X9HLgp/FTFmkSKlWQcuKj+PNCzqvF7nnEVp/Iv/VvntKv3QMllb9fGKxIfRW7HRrDd aTX1/p7+aQNDpahEt6pnhSP2o6ahHGFlqacmBnmv2tFB5wplKTxAdSqBD17AyqGE3o 6lWVxyt86rxMbLmXg45Jdt/9TS4wKOFaLh4AqdewTccq7UMyBswDIBIWDuwV2qvw3r 3hAd/Da52O0AA== Received: from policy02-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VJMqP0VpNz3vm2; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy02-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VJMqN5s6dz8sbC; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianrock64 (ip92344de0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [146.52.77.224]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 451ED819CD; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:51:39 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" In-Reply-To: <87ttk2zjai.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:23:49 +0200") References: <184c38bf07d985a8831f60024a2ae94e2fd6804d.1712585810.git.ludo@gnu.org> <871q7dshxr.fsf@pelzflorian.de> <87ttk2zjai.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: <875xwinssl.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 451ED819CD X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: uWv8GBN0WrdEqQ6UslgYqPUBNU/O4ks1cIzQ8Xg1gmgQoIgP7WjpZKKS X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4C23D37093 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: 47uwGD81KH4J Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: >> This is a regression. I have in my /run/current-system/configuration.scm >> >> (locale "de_DE.utf8") >> (locale-definitions >> (cons* (locale-definition >> (name "ar_SY.utf8") (source "ar_SY")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "bn_BD.utf8") (source "bn_BD")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "hu_HU.utf8") (source "hu_HU")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "ka_GE.utf8") (source "ka_GE")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "lt_LT.utf8") (source "lt_LT")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "oc_FR.utf8") (source "oc_FR")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "pt_BR.utf8") (source "pt_BR")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "si_LK.utf8") (source "si_LK")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "sk_SK.utf8") (source "sk_SK")) >> (locale-definition >> (name "sr_RS.utf8") (source "sr_RS")) >> %default-locale-definitions)) >> >> but de_DE.utf8 is not available and >> =E2=80=9Cexport LC_ALL=3Dde_DE.utf8=E2=80=9D gives an error. > > Right. > > I would call it a semantic change rather than a regression (a feature > rather than a bug :-)). > > It=E2=80=99s more in line with what we=E2=80=99re doing elsewhere: the de= fault is to > include =E2=80=98locale=E2=80=99 in the locale definitions, but we let th= e user override > that if they wish. It is a regression when with the same OS config.scm, my GNOME is no longer in German. Perhaps I=E2=80=99m missing something, but the only gain= from making it configurable to not include the configured default locale in locale-definitions would be that it becomes possible to not include the default locale language=E2=80=99s utf8 encoding, but utf8 is good for every= one. > Perhaps we should at least clarify the manual? > > Ludo=E2=80=99. I would have expected the prior behavior, i.e. the setting in locale to be available regardless of locale-definitions. To me it does not seem necessary to be documented explicitly, but maybe better be explicit. Regards, Florian