Hey Leo, On Fri, Mar 02 2018, Leo Famulari wrote: > I'd rather we address this use case as described previously, > with something like 'enable-linger'. I've not used the enable-linger functionality of systemd, but after doing some reading, maybe it could work like this? At boot-time we could start an instance of shepherd for each permitted user (maybe with a `lingering-user-service-type` which adds a shepherd service?). It loads ~/.config/shepherd/init.scm, and starts any services which are enabled. It also adds a pseudo-service "login", which allows a user to specify a dependency on there being a current user session (so shepherd can be told to start processes on login, and to terminate them on logout). For users who don't have a `lingering-user-service-type` running, pid 1 will listen until they log-in and will start a shepherd instance for them on login, loading ~/.config/shepherd/init.scm. When they logout pid 1 will terminate their user shepherd instance (along with any services it started). This will require a few more changes to shepherd before it can work, but does that sound like the sort of behaviour you want? Could you open a new bug about it? Carlo