From: Oleg Pykhalov <go.wigust@gmail.com>
To: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>
Cc: 30797-done@debbugs.gnu.org,
"Clément Lassieur" <clement@lassieur.org>,
30797@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#30797] [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add emacs-exec-path-from-shell
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:16:30 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <873710ro69.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1k1ucnioa.fsf@fastmail.net> (Konrad Hinsen's message of "Fri, 16 Mar 2018 16:28:53 +0100")
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Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net> writes:
> Clément Lassieur <clement@lassieur.org> writes:
>
>> This has been discussed there:
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-02/msg00649.html.
>>
>> :-)
>
> Well, then... I don't expect anything else than a proclamation by Richard
> Stallman can settle the question ;-)
Wolfgang
On Thu, Feb 23 2012, Glenn Morris wrote:
> A critical question. What is the standard form in GNU manuals for using
> the possessive apostrophe with singular nouns ending in "s"?
>
> This is one of Emacs's most important features.
>
> or
>
> This is one of Emacs' most important features.
Actually, [1] states that the latter form can be used only with
/regular/ nouns ending in "s", but many people use the plural form
"Emacsen", so, in current usage, "Emacs" is not a regular noun.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_genitive
RMS
It's worse than that: "Emacs" is a plural form used as singular.
"Emacs" originally stood for "Editing macros".
It's not clear to me what is the right form to use.
In Emacs source code repository:
$ ag -H --nobreak --nofilename "Emacs' @" | wc -l
=> 0
$ ag -H --nobreak --nofilename "Emacs's @" | wc -l
=> 9
$ ag -H --nobreak --nofilename "Emacs @" | wc -l
=> 68
So, I think we should stick to “Emacs” or “Emacs's”.
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$ ag "Emacs @"
nextstep/templates/Info-gnustep.plist.in
16: FullVersionID = "Emacs @version@, NS Windowing";
nextstep/templates/Info.plist.in
644: <string>Emacs @version@ @copyright@</string>
doc/man/emacs.1.in
2:.TH EMACS 1 "2007 April 13" "GNU Emacs @version@"
doc/emacs/misc.texi
2432:to another. Once you save the Emacs @dfn{desktop}---the buffers,
doc/emacs/emacs.texi
1515: We call Emacs @dfn{advanced} because it can do much more than simple
doc/emacs/regs.texi
9: Emacs @dfn{registers} are compartments where you can save text,
doc/emacs/modes.texi
438: Finally, if Emacs @emph{still} hasn't found a major mode to use, it
doc/lispref/eval.texi
71:the argument, Emacs @dfn{executes} the function (@code{car}), and if
doc/lispref/elisp.texi
247:* New Symbols:: New functions and variables in Emacs @value{EMACSVER}.
doc/lispref/display.texi
6165:the usual Emacs @code{highlight} face.
doc/lispref/nonascii.texi
746:An Emacs @dfn{character set}, or @dfn{charset}, is a set of characters
doc/misc/cl.texi
38:@center as distributed with Emacs @value{EMACSVER}
doc/misc/efaq-w32.texi
60:Emacs @value{EMACSVER}.
128:Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is known to run on all versions of Windows from
doc/misc/emacs-mime.texi
65:picture of how the Emacs @acronym{MIME} library works, and people who want
1063:The Emacs @acronym{MIME} library will respect the @code{use-hard-newlines}
1114:The Emacs @acronym{MIME} library takes a different tack. It defines a
1861:The Emacs @acronym{MIME} library implements handling of various elements
doc/misc/viper.texi
535:These are the Emacs @samp{quit} keys.
doc/misc/reftex.texi
2937:standard Emacs @LaTeX{} mode) containing the name of the master file. For
doc/misc/flymake.texi
198:Logging output is controlled by the Emacs @code{warning-minimum-log-level}
doc/misc/edt.texi
158:Enter the Emacs @code{customize} command. First select the
203:for your keyboard within Emacs @strong{or} a bug in the Unix
309:@file{edt-user.el}. The Emacs @file{etc/} directory contains an
422:Emacs @file{lisp/emulation} directory for more information.)
776:your own private lisp directory. The Emacs @file{etc/} directory
803:A sample @file{edt-user.el} file is provided in the Emacs @file{etc/}
937:Enter the Emacs @code{customize} command. First select the
doc/misc/cc-mode.texi
2335:An Emacs @dfn{hook} is a place to put Lisp functions that you want
doc/misc/idlwave.texi
4190:You need to make sure your Emacs @emph{load-path} contains the directory
doc/misc/eshell.texi
68:REPL for Emacs @emph{and} with an interface similar to command shells
doc/misc/calc.texi
95:GNU Emacs @value{EMACSVER}.
1600:like the regular Emacs @kbd{M-x} key except that it types the @samp{calc-}
6128:in the new definition (or use Emacs @kbd{M-w} and @kbd{C-y} commands
9848:more instructive. This means the regular Emacs @kbd{C-h k}
10288:The standard Emacs @kbd{C-_} undo key is recognized as a synonym for @kbd{U}.
28002:again or use the regular Emacs @w{@kbd{C-x o}} (@code{other-window})
32772:it can use the actual Emacs @code{+} and related functions rather
32936:errors instead call the Emacs @code{error} function which aborts
doc/misc/gnus-coding.texi
210:@subsection Emacs @acronym{MIME}
doc/misc/ido.texi
38:@center as distributed with Emacs @value{EMACSVER}
doc/misc/efaq.texi
68:This is the version of the FAQ distributed with Emacs @value{EMACSVER}, and
216:An Emacs @dfn{command} is an @dfn{interactive} Emacs function.
873:the Emacs @samp{Help} menu, or by typing @kbd{C-h ?} (@kbd{M-x
979:Emacs @value{EMACSVER} is the current version as of this writing. A version
1098:Consult the Emacs @file{NEWS} file (@kbd{C-h n}) for the full list of
1987:The Emacs @code{cc-mode} features an interactive procedure for
doc/misc/dired-x.texi
85:For @file{dired-x.el} as distributed with GNU Emacs @value{EMACSVER}.
doc/misc/org.texi
2061:calculations are supported using the Emacs @file{calc} package
2415:The table editor makes use of the Emacs @file{calc} package to implement
2635:A formula can be any algebraic expression understood by the Emacs @file{Calc}
13013:program or Emacs @code{create-image} and @code{image-size} API. ImageMagick
13226:colors from the faces used by Emacs @code{font-lock} library for that source
14517:the Emacs @file{tramp} package. Or you can publish to a local directory and
doc/misc/erc.texi
11:This manual is for ERC as distributed with Emacs @value{EMACSVER}.
doc/misc/gnus.texi
23279:command, which should feel kinda like the normal Emacs @code{undo}
30523:Gnus extends the standard Emacs @code{interactive} specification
30589:takes the same parameters as the Emacs @code{run-at-time}. When running
doc/misc/htmlfontify.texi
511:Derives a CSS font-family specifier from an Emacs @code{:family} attribute.
539:Derive CSS border-* attributes from the Emacs @code{:box} attribute.
1042:Convert an Emacs @code{:width} attribute to a CSS font-stretch attribute.
doc/misc/woman.texi
43:@subtitle as distributed with Emacs @value{EMACSVER}
69:As distributed with Emacs @value{EMACSVER}.
123:reformatting done by the Emacs @code{man} command. No hyphenation is
211:pages in the form of the Emacs @code{man} (or @code{manual-entry})
228:functionality of the Emacs @code{man} command, the main difference being
274:of the facilities implemented in the Emacs @code{man} library. WoMan
580:Emacs @code{man} command (and much of the code is inherited from the
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$ ag "Emacs's @"
doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi
16584:code yourself; or you can use Emacs's @code{customize} feature to write
16649:others can then use Emacs's @code{customize} feature to set their
17317:that directory as part of Emacs's @code{load-path}. Then, when Emacs
doc/emacs/text.texi
2116: The file @file{enriched.txt} in Emacs's @code{data-directory}
doc/misc/cl.texi
3437:Emacs's @code{substring} function. Note that @code{cl-subseq} is
doc/misc/viper.texi
683:used to delete the text previously put back by Emacs's @kbd{C-y} or by Vi's
doc/misc/eshell.texi
343:Alias to Emacs's @code{locate} function, which simply runs the external
354:Alias to Emacs's @code{occur}.
doc/misc/sc.texi
1667:in the same way that Emacs's @code{set-variable} does:
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Oleg.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-16 16:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-13 15:47 [bug#30797] [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add emacs-exec-path-from-shell Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-15 8:50 ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-03-16 12:11 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-16 14:13 ` bug#30797: " Oleg Pykhalov
2018-03-16 14:42 ` [bug#30797] " Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-16 15:05 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-03-16 15:28 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-16 16:16 ` Oleg Pykhalov [this message]
2018-03-16 16:16 ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-03-17 11:46 ` Andreas Enge
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