From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: "Jan \(janneke\) Nieuwenhuizen" <janneke@gnu.org>
Cc: Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>, 41350@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for the Hurd.
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 23:58:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87367ue09v.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200519072302.9202-3-janneke@gnu.org> (Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Tue, 19 May 2020 09:23:02 +0200")
Howdy!
"Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen" <janneke@gnu.org> skribis:
> Cross-building a vm-image is usually done using a cross-qemu, e.g, qemu-ARM,
> because, e.g., a native, x86_64 Grub cannot install an armhf-Grub. That
> solution does not work for the Hurd, as there is no qemu-HURD.
>
> This patch enables cross building vm-images for the Hurd using a native qemu
> vm.
>
> * gnu/system/vm.scm (expression->derivation-in-linux-vm): Run native
> qemu-command; use native linux, initrd, bootloader-package and
> bootloader-installer, for the Hurd.
> [preserve-target]: New helper to install cross-packages into the native vm.
> * gnu/bootloader/grub.scm (eye-candy): Use native font, for the Hurd.
>
> Co-authored-by: Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>
I think the big question here, not Hurd-specific, is about the
abstractions:
1. When cross-compiling, can the ‘qemu-image’ procedure to its job by
running exclusively native software (in particular using a native
QEMU, native kernel, etc.)?
2. What should ‘expression->derivation-in-linux-vm’ do when
cross-compiling?
I think the answer to (1) is yes, right? That is, we can build a QEMU
image for AArch64/EFI from an x86_64 box. That means we’d run the
x86_64/EFI ‘grub-install’ in the final step, an x86_64 ‘mke2fs’ and
‘parted’ to create the partitions, and so on. Likewise, we can create a
QEMU GNU/Hurd image without entirely on GNU/Linux.
As for (2), I’d say that when cross-compiling, it should just run native
software but simply preserve references to cross-compiled software,
which is what janneke’s patch does.
How does that sound? Mathieu?
(I guess I’m rewording what janneke wrote, but my mind became fuzzy last
time I looked at it, so I thought it’s best to double-check. :-))
Thanks!
Ludo’.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-17 10:01 [bug#41350] [PATCH 0/3] Use native qemu to build vm-image Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-17 10:03 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-17 10:03 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 2/3] system: vm: Do not register-closures when cross-building Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-17 10:03 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-18 9:10 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 0/3] Use native qemu to build vm-image Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-19 7:22 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19 10:02 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-20 14:03 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-20 15:09 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19 7:23 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19 7:23 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 2/3] system: vm: Do not register-closures when cross-building to the Hurd Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19 7:23 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for " Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-19 9:14 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-20 21:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-23 9:28 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-23 17:45 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-23 19:07 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24 9:18 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-27 9:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28 7:00 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-24 11:19 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24 12:07 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-24 14:20 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24 16:36 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-20 21:58 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2020-05-22 19:24 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-27 22:54 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28 6:36 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-28 12:29 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-28 15:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28 17:07 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-28 17:10 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-28 18:19 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-29 8:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-29 9:06 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-30 10:08 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-30 13:54 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-09-28 20:18 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH 0/3] Use native qemu to build vm-image Maxim Cournoyer
2022-09-29 14:17 ` bug#41350: " Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-23 9:30 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-23 9:30 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 2/3] system: vm: Do not register-closures when cross-building to the Hurd Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-27 8:45 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-27 9:13 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-23 9:30 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for " Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-27 8:43 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v3 1/3] utils: Move 'reset-timestamps' out of database Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-27 8:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-27 9:10 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-24 18:11 ` [bug#41350] [PATCH v2 3/3] system: vm: Build vm-image using native qemu, for the Hurd Mathieu Othacehe
2020-05-24 18:40 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-05-25 15:46 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
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