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From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>, 73073@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Vivien Kraus <vivien@planete-kraus.eu>,
	Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Subject: [bug#73073] [PATCH 4/6] gnu: gnome-recipes: Move libgd origin from phases to native-inputs.
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 20:11:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734mcire8.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1357ec8c534073231b92e7d4c455e2fce6f2db4.camel@gmail.com>

Hi Liliana,

My aim is not to mix, under ’inputs’ record field, the old style (label)
with the new style (no label) but to have the ’origin’ inside ’inputs’
and not inside ’arguments’.


On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 at 19:33, Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can see why you're doing that, but I'm not really convinced it helps
> the package.

As I wrote in the cover letter:

        This is annoying because these origins are hidden from
        ’package-direct-sources’; see module (guix packages).

So it helps the package. ;-)

Please note that the docstring of ’package-direct-sources’ is currently
lying. ;-)  Well, the situation is a bug, IMHO.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  "Return all source origins associated with PACKAGE; including origins in
PACKAGE's inputs and patches."
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


> IMHO, G-Expressions in phases serve in part to facilitate uses like
> this.

I agree that G-exps facilitate manipulation of store paths.  But using
’origin’ inside arguments appears to me as an abuse of the feature.  As
I wrote in the cover letter:

        Moreover and tangentially, it appears to me an anti-pattern of the
        functional paradigm: The data from the impure outside should be handled
        by the ’source’ record field, or otherwise by ’inputs’, ’native-inputs’
        or ’propagated-inputs’ record fields; let say only ’inputs’ for
        simplicity.

Therefore, I strongly think ’origin’ should not be inside arguments.

Somehow, my submission is a proposal for dealing with the case.  And
it’s not really if it needs to, or should, be done. :-)


>               Particularly, we're now even adding a labeled input,
> which makes for a cursed situation where all but one inputs are
> unlabeled¹.

Please note it’s a specific inputs: it’s an ’origin’.  This can be
checked by the pattern matching, e.g.,

    (((? string? label) (? origin? o) ;Allow old style as sometimes requires by origin in inputs
     `(,label ,o))

Other said, it would not be a “cursed situation”; only a situation using
a locally defined input.


Cheers,
simon




  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-06 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-06 15:51 [bug#73073] [PATCH 0/6] Allow origin with label as inputs Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 15:54 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH 1/6] guix: packages: " Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 15:54 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH 2/6] gnu: dmd-bootstrap: Move phobos origin from phases to native-inputs Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 15:54 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH 3/6] gnu: smithforth: Move system.fs " Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 15:54 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH 4/6] gnu: gnome-recipes: Move libgd " Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 17:33   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-09-06 18:11     ` Simon Tournier [this message]
2024-09-06 20:14       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-09-07 11:37         ` Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 15:54 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH 5/6] gnu: farstream: Move common " Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 15:54 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH 6/6] gnu: gnulib: Move phobos " Simon Tournier
2024-09-06 21:45 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH 0/6] Allow origin with label as inputs Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-07 13:40   ` Simon Tournier
2024-09-07 14:49     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-09-16 20:13     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-10  1:27 ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 0/8] Allow origin inside inputs with "new style" Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 1/8] guix: packages: " Simon Tournier
2024-09-16 20:19     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-09-16 20:42       ` Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 2/8] gnu: gnome-recipes: Move libgd origin from phases to native-inputs Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  4:30     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-09-10  7:58       ` Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 3/8] gnu: dmd-bootstrap: Move phobos " Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 4/8] gnu: smithforth: Move system.fs " Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 5/8] gnu: farstream: Move common " Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 6/8] gnu: gnulib: Move phobos " Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 7/8] gnu: git: Move git-manpages " Simon Tournier
2024-09-10  1:27   ` [bug#73073] [PATCH v2 8/8] gnu: cgit: Remove input labels Simon Tournier

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