From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id oNBlEEXgtWNcswAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 21:23:33 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id qDl9D0XgtWP1EgEAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 21:23:33 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E60B937716 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2023 21:23:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDAHx-0003iU-Ou; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:23:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDAHv-0003i8-5R for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:23:03 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDAHu-0005ld-UH for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:23:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDAHu-0003Br-Fj for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:23:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#52109] [PATCH] gnu: Add unrar-free. Resent-From: Maxim Cournoyer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 20:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Liliana Marie Prikler Cc: kiasoc5 , 52109@debbugs.gnu.org, Foo Chuan Wei Received: via spool by 52109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52109.167286372212080 (code B ref 52109); Wed, 04 Jan 2023 20:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 52109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2023 20:22:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDAGw-00038c-3M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:22:02 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-f175.google.com ([209.85.160.175]:44799) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDAGu-00038H-Sy for 52109@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:22:01 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-f175.google.com with SMTP id c11so28194884qtn.11 for <52109@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 12:22:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:in-reply-to:date:references :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xYjZIX40WSwUZgJb8FBQH9xTR2mIv2/UwiJsZeNn9NU=; b=jti7BvUzCLujavrx3o6/pvxI9M9QGZk0SJ1KUpqihb6GIY/IkruTG/CPRLBPESt2Nn ApobQaQ/+z4PuVbaaA2TVwlh3AY28FJDa6KP8xCNzKXcJc3cS6taQHZWSw3XJSFFHhjz f8nu70Uv2BFeeyGEvWDGSsf9+NL7NUYCL4QurzPMhZYDpyM8czRqIdnN+bZ69S4DBzSz dASDUtRiZnIe1zkTkHTgx9vbLs3lL0235OcwFRHKeQXHxCML2mnylqMvEm349rsv1Z8w GD96jM+mVYIAkm3+AdCMx7x/1Vgh/ePI0lzJsDk9kvxU+OB3xhoibSlc2rz9zLA8keRz lb5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:in-reply-to:date:references :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=xYjZIX40WSwUZgJb8FBQH9xTR2mIv2/UwiJsZeNn9NU=; b=KVlFaR/PkfBV9wQJG8+d9aVudywolXPsoVD5nCcqR3wLwnoqcU98rxZvy1V1WDMlt0 YmyuHA2taXeFhsTE+puv+7evyL6dq1LZ2ySVcHHdJbUBQmKqI6Ma8NyuiMmqNAGPhqOB 3wB0Zs5iqZ4mheqbxepdxvIiXIjzOr4O9eZfjQQC7BOKlfLiyIIVyh8DDJn4FhYz2HtP AicZEi5/5okb4uMLNHARoN6BFHXCJ1UCegDHY5Dv4E+cgwxboqaeyXSqIKpCnXR2SdzJ U8yvSqI6nrCJoznDm5mJXwPDrYVNptSGgFEjJmScaRfFEUTeyfLYGt5Z68bUBwla2LRs 55AA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kprYWdCYJGt6PhWWsS2W2feWwfmIkxCoxemAVyI0Kl9P0NmF2y8 wQLFTpQnDq0f8IroDqip6Ok= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXt/vDSlZmTqAKdHYyDvaxnpYy6Rww9tCfUhcm027S9FRvFpHWakCGlr+Hc+M7C3M+dNmuhmnw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:258c:b0:3ab:9ef8:f7e8 with SMTP id cj12-20020a05622a258c00b003ab9ef8f7e8mr37053620qtb.42.1672863715205; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 12:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hurd (dsl-10-135-221.b2b2c.ca. [72.10.135.221]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bb23-20020a05622a1b1700b003431446588fsm20733110qtb.5.2023.01.04.12.21.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Jan 2023 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87358rxgjk.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <325c0ef4-63ad-b45d-96ae-2cf248c37548@disroot.org> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 15:21:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2023 20:41:21 +0100") Message-ID: <871qoavyn2.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672863812; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Wr4wZ3S853w0xyMXW7e/VwX2LhFLfEZIqMaWYbICe/O5qaOsUE7UidJb2Z02R59r+CFgJv VZsmvybOWkVb8ettyf/GzVJlad86CARDJi3SQUFCQd3vQ7PaWkpDUmnHrNgL+FOyAykS60 44KPuUe4OLnIaDmkVrlm22qIC2PqDPrOiE/ahAF653bafS2NT+40JIxz8G7M4gHQ145fk+ yeSdSlhiP5HNeI6xHbgkomzhBoCdDCwR2DphVXrIz2pU2XsFo5cYe+YuhE22EpDRXgLqm4 Pz0XW1immZnG/IUC8DmGQdLTSJDgo03SZB0quWewnjvqdvR9PeE7tvG9hlg2cA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=jti7BvUz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672863812; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:resent-cc:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references: list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post: dkim-signature; bh=xYjZIX40WSwUZgJb8FBQH9xTR2mIv2/UwiJsZeNn9NU=; b=HCB7BSX1q5QjgjTYhL2QT7zvwTYW0w6q5lhmgWDvJcm/LwqfBFsbGNbDmRCKoxuVcH0RAz V2u3UtkQmuW2rB20GITS2CeTOBQV8REkE2C6XcO4KxC6zkNV7nosxskVuNAjYTH1CybD1A sWKUe7Jm4CqwI8L41ks1umFABTyEwzoVhe5LDq4kRwAe3QKXTPGD9R96m70gOuikZzipBs VN4PFqYAwZewSQ/DpUsQs1GLgQ8eOKCfk2RTtqnGsuROHASwtqbVUAIDsvfToiXSFKVp+F GK3+KeBiEgnfN0V80IYgRgbaG/NtACgAxDlKjSr6BABq6fDY4SmadUwfVs5Owg== X-Spam-Score: -1.86 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E60B937716 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=jti7BvUz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.86 X-TUID: m1Rt56K05VjB Hi, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Mittwoch, dem 04.01.2023 um 00:32 -0500 schrieb kiasoc5: >> On 1/3/23 19:57, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >> > >> > While I appreciate your concern, I don't think it is a problem to >> > have unrar-free in GNU Guix; it is free software and respects the >> > GNU FSDG, as far as I can tell >> Debian and Fedora, whose package guidelines are generally free- >> software friendly (with some exceptions), include unrar-free. >> >> https://repology.org/project/unrar-free/versions > Neither Debian nor Fedora are recommended GNU distros. As for > Trisquel, which is, note how severely outdated the version there is. That it is present in Trisquel says a lot about its standing with FSDG. > More importantly, > > Am Dienstag, dem 03.01.2023 um 19:57 -0500 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer: >> Since the program uses libarchive, it would think it supports the >> same features as libarchive itself. Its value is in providing a >> simpler to use front-end CLI. > > Yes, the supported features are exactly the libarchive feature set. > However, I would argue that the value of providing this "simpler to use > front-end" is in fact a negative one. For one, bsdtar's CLI is not > that complicated, but what's more, some programs like file-roller > (which let's be honest, the uninitiated user is more likely to use than > either CLI) have an escape hatch for non-libarchive implementations of > unrar. Using this escape hatch to sneak in libarchive is plain silly > :) I think arguing about how complicated alternatives are to use or whether users should use such alternatives is beside the point. Guix contains free software packages contributed by its contributors, not a curated list of software that have been deemed useful or worthy based on the opinions of the Guix committers/reviewers. -- Thanks, Maxim