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Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74736 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9?= Lopez Cc: 74736@debbugs.gnu.org, Simon Tournier Received: via spool by 74736-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74736.17361852322959 (code B ref 74736); Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 74736) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2025 17:40:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39901 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUr5b-0000lf-Si for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 12:40:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58562) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUr5Z-0000lJ-OB for 74736@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 12:40:30 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tUr5S-0005WK-87; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 12:40:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=WrqqBfzifQmAYz1Qdf/XJymlnVrU7ISyzaeGABs+Utc=; b=jPakL5gTMMdiwrkiVAmR tb3PKsPLIz0CWJOsboF/bl2JoIZsE2nueHKJx2hS1ZdWXrLBYc4XvtIyWVEHNdS9gqzV+Weqg2OMQ VgvO37g9U6zW/a+ykmLqvVjfRuzxMfuylAobRqQOeQaO9Sj1TqJCau5pMYVNvveRqWjSJFaorMU+J FSm3SnQBjcnmrVG9/LPCspZwrx0t2oah0FQU0ZCftH3zibhgCwpxTv2KcjJwuXxqtUVrxjVRqstbj +bVyUkap1yUEvjW/P1Txvx3Hhm2viaN8E9tskEsP7YCnSK8hqr/Iip4Hzy06J/FnkKmt0Uoh9VI5W pX+cfP0wsKU38g==; From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= In-Reply-To: <87v7utxw2a.fsf@xn--no-cja.eu> ("=?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9?= Lopez"'s message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2025 13:51:57 +0100") References: <87ikraea0f.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87wmfifii5.fsf@xn--no-cja.eu> <87seq5tou6.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <875xn14c21.fsf@xn--no-cja.eu> <87ttaeqyje.fsf@gnu.org> <87v7utxw2a.fsf@xn--no-cja.eu> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 18:40:14 +0100 Message-ID: <871pxf7se9.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 400097F4A X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.18 X-Spam-Score: -1.18 X-TUID: 0AFV5u0kDPjm Hi, No=C3=A9 Lopez skribis: > To take a realistic example, say I make an RFC for P2P substitute > distribution with GNUNet/ERIS, this is a big change that requires an RFC > but I have trouble imagining that ten people in the team members are > interested in that. > > Teams are specialized after all, if I add myself to the games team it > doesn=E2=80=99t mean I care about RFCs for what would be the core team. Yes. I=E2=80=99m not sure about this particular example though: *if* this is implemented as an opt-in functionality, it=E2=80=99s not necessarily a =E2= =80=9Cbig change=E2=80=9D in that (1) it=E2=80=99s disabled by default, and (2) it co= uld be removed entirely from the code base anytime. So under these conditions, it would not even qualify for the RFC process. Conversely, the examples given in the current RFC draft really have an impact on everyone and are hard or impossible to revert. > That said I trust your experience to find a quorum that works and if you > think ten is realistic then go for it. I don=E2=80=99t have experience but I think that we want to make sure there= =E2=80=99s enough community input. This will require publicity about each RFC and probably we=E2=80=99ll have to do some web/automation work to help publiciz= e new RFCs and RFC status changes. Fundamentally, we need to view ourselves as a community with shared goals, making decisions together=E2=80=94that is what it means to be a =E2= =80=9Cmember=E2=80=9D of the project. Ludo=E2=80=99.