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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=fsfe.org (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=fsfe.org (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 635DC2E082 X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Bqm/D3m5NVK9 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hello Guix! > > Here comes =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99, a proposed replacement for =E2= =80=98guix environment=E2=80=99! Suddenly thousands(/dozens?) of shell scripts fear for their continued existence :-) > 2. =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99, without arguments, loads =E2=80=98guix= .scm=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98manifest.scm=E2=80=99 > from the current directory or one of its ancestors. > 4. =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 without arguments maintains a cache, su= ch that, the > second time you run it, it runs in ~0.1s (it does not even need to > connect to the daemon). > > If you run =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99 and run again =E2=80=98guix s= hell=E2=80=99, it recomputes > the environment, as is currently the case with =E2=80=98guix environ= ment=E2=80=99. > Thoughts? Are there other changes people would like to see? > > If there=E2=80=99s rough consensus I can work on v2 with documentation. = Please > let=E2=80=99s keep the discussion focused. :-) At the risk of doing exactly not that; since it will(/might) already provide some automagic conveniences, perhaps it makes sense to additionally load a guix-channels.scm. I understand that there would be some duplication of functionality w.r.t. =E2=80=98guix time-machine -C guix-channels.scm -- shell ...=E2=80= =99, but if we already go the DWIW-route, why not go all the way? I think this should only apply when running =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 without arguments, if = that was unclear. Love the proposal - Jelle