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From: pukkamustard <pukkamustard@posteo.net>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: ~pukkamustard/eris@lists.sr.ht, 52555@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] substitute: Fetch substitutes using ERIS.
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 10:38:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86k0edh79j.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6bb147c902c0067d923321daf6d8db4a06fa537.camel@telenet.be>


Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> writes:

> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> pukkamustard schreef op di 25-01-2022 om 19:22 [+0000]:
>> +  (define* (best-uri narinfo #:key (eris? #f))
>> +    (if (and eris? (narinfo-eris-urn narinfo))
>> +        (values (narinfo-eris-urn narinfo) "zstd" #f)
>> +        (narinfo-best-uri narinfo #:fast-decompression?
>> +                          %prefer-fast-decompression?)))
>
> Why is ERIS the best here?  Fast download speeds, decentralisation,
> less network I/O, less heat production, more pronouncable than HTTPS?
> I would add a comment here.

Those are all possible reasons. I think we first need to do some
experiments to see if any of those claims can be justified.

In general, the logic for when to use ERIS transports needs more
thought.

For one, I think it should be user configurable. I can imagine that
certain users do not want to use decentralized substitutes at all. Users
should be able to deactivate the entire ERIS thing.

For the default, I personally think it would be ok to try and use
ERIS. The only thing we absolutely need is a clean fallback logic that
transparently falls back to getting the entire NAR by HTTP. Currently
such a fallback is not yet implemented.

-pukkamustard




  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-16 16:17 [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Decentralized substitute distribution with ERIS pukkamustard
2021-12-16 16:20 ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 1/3] publish: Add ERIS URN to narinfo pukkamustard
2021-12-16 16:20   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 2/3] WIP: gnu: guile-eris: Update to unreleased git version pukkamustard
2021-12-16 16:20   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 3/3] publish: Add IPFS support pukkamustard
2021-12-20 16:25 ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Decentralized substitute distribution with ERIS Ludovic Courtès
2021-12-23 11:42   ` pukkamustard
2021-12-24 14:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-25 19:21 ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] " pukkamustard
2022-01-25 19:21   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 1/5] WIP: gnu: guile-eris: Update to unreleased git version pukkamustard
2022-01-25 19:21   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 2/5] publish: Add ERIS URN to narinfo pukkamustard
2022-01-29 21:09     ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-29 21:15     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 10:16       ` pukkamustard
2022-01-25 19:21   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 3/5] Add (guix eris) pukkamustard
2022-01-29 21:23     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 10:28       ` pukkamustard
2022-02-02 15:36         ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-29 21:24     ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-25 19:22   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 4/5] publish: Add support for storing ERIS encoded blocks to IPFS pukkamustard
2022-01-29 21:28     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 10:24       ` pukkamustard
2022-01-25 19:22   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] substitute: Fetch substitutes using ERIS pukkamustard
2022-01-29 21:29     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 10:11       ` pukkamustard
2022-01-29 21:33     ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-29 21:38     ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-29 21:40       ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-29 21:40     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 10:38       ` pukkamustard [this message]
2022-01-29 21:00   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] Decentralized substitute distribution with ERIS Maxime Devos
2022-02-02  9:50     ` pukkamustard
2022-01-29 21:08   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02  9:56     ` pukkamustard
2022-02-02 11:09       ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-29 21:52   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 11:10     ` pukkamustard
2022-02-03 20:36       ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-04 10:20         ` pukkamustard
2022-01-30 11:46   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 10:51     ` pukkamustard
2022-02-02 11:27       ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 12:42         ` pukkamustard
2022-02-02 15:07           ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-02 15:27           ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-04 16:16       ` Maxime Devos
2022-12-29 18:13 ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 0/8] " pukkamustard
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 1/8] publish: Add ERIS URN to narinfo pukkamustard
2023-01-14 18:34     ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Decentralized substitute distribution with ERIS Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 2/8] publish: Store ERIS encoded blocks to a local block store pukkamustard
2023-01-14 18:42     ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Decentralized substitute distribution with ERIS Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 3/8] publish: Add HTTP endpoint for resolving ERIS blocks pukkamustard
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 4/8] WIP: substitute: Fetch substitutes using ERIS pukkamustard
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 5/8] eris/http: Add HTTP block de-referencer pukkamustard
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 6/8] WIP: eris: Use HTTP to get ERIS blocks pukkamustard
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 7/8] eris: Use parameterized %eris-peers when getting blocks pukkamustard
2022-12-29 18:13   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v3 8/8] eris: Use IPFS to get ERIS blocks pukkamustard
2023-01-14 18:25   ` [bug#52555] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Decentralized substitute distribution with ERIS Ludovic Courtès
2023-12-28  9:40 ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 0/7] " pukkamustard
2023-12-28  9:40   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 1/7] narinfo: Add ERIS field pukkamustard
2023-12-28  9:40   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 2/7] gnu: Add guile-coap pukkamustard
2023-12-28  9:40   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 3/7] gnu: guile-eris: Update to 1.2.0-dev pukkamustard
2023-12-28  9:40   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 4/7] publish: Add ERIS URN to narinfo pukkamustard
2023-12-28  9:40   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 5/7] eris: Connect with an ERIS Store over CoAP+Unix pukkamustard
2023-12-28  9:40   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 6/7] substitute: Decode substitutes using ERIS pukkamustard
2023-12-28  9:40   ` [bug#52555] [PATCH v4 7/7] gnu: Add kapla pukkamustard

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