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Sun, 03 Oct 2021 23:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: zimoun In-Reply-To: <20211002102116.27726-1-ludo@gnu.org> References: <20211002102116.27726-1-ludo@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 08:56:11 +0200 Message-ID: <868rz9ffck.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1633330695; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; 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spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=NISUxuef; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 01A1920386 X-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: DCQ00fCqVwwG Hi, All looks good to me; from the surface, I have not looked at the details. On Sat, 02 Oct 2021 at 12:21, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > 2. =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99, without arguments, loads =E2=80=98guix= .scm=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98manifest.scm=E2=80=99 > from the current directory or one of its ancestors. Personally, I do not like this default behaviour because explicit is better than implicit and in the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess; as any good Zen says. :-) Idem with the proposal =E2=80=99channels.scm=E2=80=99 and time-machine. > As for deprecation, I think there=E2=80=99s no rush. I imagine there cou= ld be > several phases, like: initially we only mention deprecation in the manual, > later on =E2=80=98guix environment=E2=80=99 starts emitting a warning, an= d later (I guess > at least two years later, probably more) we ask ourselves whether to > remove =E2=80=98guix environment=E2=80=99. At this point keeping it does= n=E2=80=99t cost us much. Concretely, I propose this plan: - v1.4: mention deprecation in the manual and remove from =E2=80=9Cguix he= lp=E2=80=9D - v1.5: emit a warning - v1.6: remove the command Well, I do not see why the removal should be an issue, because there is =E2=80=9Cguix time-machine=E2=80=9D. To me, the real issue is to let peopl= e knowing such change. Moreover, I am doubtful that the exact same command-line from v1.0 is producing the same result with v1.3 for instance. Not because of Guix but because of the underlying packages. For example, . All the best, simon