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Resent-From: Simon Tournier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:38:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66430 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Maxim Cournoyer , 66430@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Maxim Cournoyer Received: via spool by 66430-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66430.16970206831904 (code B ref 66430); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:38:04 +0000 Received: (at 66430) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2023 10:38:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqWbL-0000UP-AZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 06:38:03 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]:38244) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqWbG-0000SX-KS for 66430@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 06:37:59 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-4064e3c7c07so9917815e9.1 for <66430@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:37:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697020651; x=1697625451; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=CFtF0T54HODntRLTd1RrCaENRUQreGy+jFy//2EX5vs=; b=m6Af+gbLwdGZrK5mL2nIf2duVV2Kf+2EDnMi+yGtwDbZu3I2hAf2iTkr5k56wlSUhW JhZnZUcLjFTJHfmVB0nKPhbZFuexbfZJc+ZXp9ufKJoPiFUWv+Md1AcXn+6C0gyIoUZ6 JgEdgu/1xjCm+lQTbr3ZKJk1oVMQApYn50xkCvb6SZOpPREBItISrulKC4kAeXlBCPwd E1TzmPtrqEPwO6J3CEPDYzfbLqkBToRTfNjtfhr2uQ6SvFksmm4AqtphmUFypFyB0JjC g4sSUkEhmUDK4b5eJcKt8uoG7rdVsh4yz5UVSv5vPFGp7ytcZfMBZXrr1JRp8YIadAc1 KEVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697020651; x=1697625451; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CFtF0T54HODntRLTd1RrCaENRUQreGy+jFy//2EX5vs=; b=faKAZXp20OUvXK56Mwvw57qYaLqNROErmh3SEVF8MXh+RA1U79nAixom2Vi90U428G doz4+xGDG/HdX0SyU5oXH67hYORON+KOL8xMMePIKbrbGYw5YqgB+q7EZMHj8FCfEEvq V3SwooXiYOmmHgH65Eaxu4jPun1oFcDYfxsLWv/19M0nTvGDJtOmPf+OBTYom0ksp9mR WuEn2Agze/I1r50xeaJev3PKjwt4evApnrgO92NHQrEtUpL7We108C1YlnDIjZ+T/U8k 9NL/Nyy/c4+eeIRU1jjynA9lkyHNMmd7z0ubkwNc9ARdmlzMQlSRHxn6+GsryxILXHDY jAdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzrC24Z9GjfDEq/wSeM7EWCT7fxu+aPfTsK4IYA1C3sUhF7raOc cQd06Zn3CpoqMZhTRIBuCHs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHiohPBQ2+iPDvdISnvgyZAuBDoY5h/u8QMDvUyIHmguS8S4MJq08xvSC1Fjf+AmfIL6u/jqA== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cc99:0:b0:401:7d3b:cc84 with SMTP id p25-20020a7bcc99000000b004017d3bcc84mr18259998wma.0.1697020651092; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:65d2:2476:f637:db1e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x9-20020a05600c21c900b003fefe70ec9csm18679883wmj.10.2023.10.11.03.37.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:37:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Tournier In-Reply-To: <5760a46dfc1b97312d1d5512ebf1bd21da6707f5.1696903067.git.maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> References: <5760a46dfc1b97312d1d5512ebf1bd21da6707f5.1696903067.git.maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:30:10 +0200 Message-ID: <867cntld5p.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Spam-Score: 4.23 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3F9B6BBF0 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 4.23 X-TUID: yyq3F9snQL8r Hi Maxim, On Mon, 09 Oct 2023 at 22:01, Maxim Cournoyer w= rote: > -@url{https://www.seedsforchange.org.uk/consensus}. > +@url{https://www.seedsforchange.org.uk/consensus}. The project uses the > +@samp{Requiring people who block to help find solutions} block variant, > +which means a participant wishing to block a proposal bears a > +special responsibility for finding alternatives and proposing ideas/code > +to resolve the deadlock. I would propose: + one sentence for summarizing what =E2=80=9Cconsensus=E2=80=9D means, rou= ghly. + one sentence for clarifying the =E2=80=9Cblock=E2=80=9D situation. + the link for more details. Well, concretely, something along this wording: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- It is expected from all contributors, and even more so from committers, to help build consensus and make decisions based on consensus. By using consensus, we are committed to finding solutions that everyone can live with. It implies that no decision is made against significant concerns and these concerns are actively resolved with proposals that work for everyone. A participant wishing to block a proposal bears a special responsibility for finding alternatives and proposing ideas/code to resolve the deadlock. To learn what consensus decision making means and understand its finer details, you are encouraged to read . --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Cheers, simon